illegal ticket sale on ebay

[atb9]

WWJSD?

What Would John Spencer Do?

[Rosey]

[quote atb9]WWJSD?

What Would John Spencer Do?[/quote]
He'd keep right except to pass!

(Point taken, though.)

Cheers,
Kyle

[ugarte]

[quote Ken '70]I don't know what incorporation theory is, and I don't know what type of originalism you're referring to so I can't answer that first question.[/quote]After this you should have just admitted that you are way, way out of your depth in discussing constitutional law. Seriously.

But atb9's got this one righter than either of us, so I'll stop now also.

[jtwcornell91]

Has somebody reported the auction to Cornell athletics?

[Facetimer]

[quote jtwcornell91]Has somebody reported the auction to Cornell athletics?[/quote]

Seriously, who cares?  Why all the rats?  If you don't want to pay so high for the ticket, don't bid.  If you do, than so be it.  You guys all remind me of my classmates in high school who told the teacher when they forgot to give us homework.  Grow up.

Also, instead of the wonderfully entertaining Constitutional law discourse above, perhaps you all should take a look at a more pertinent document, the anti-scalping statute in New York.  It is questionable there actually exists illegal activity in the first place and since Cornell does not print face value on season tickets, one can sell it for whatever price he sees fit.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Facetimer][quote jtwcornell91]Has somebody reported the auction to Cornell athletics?[/quote]

Seriously, who cares?  Why all the rats?  If you don't want to pay so high for the ticket, don't bid.  If you do, than so be it.  You guys all remind me of my classmates in high school who told the teacher when they forgot to give us homework.  Grow up.[/quote]

I like living in a world where I can buy tickets at face value.  To help promote that, I only sell tickets for either face value or what they actually cost me.  I also want to see the laws that make it harder to scalp tickets enforced.  But then I'm practically a communist.

[quote Facetimer]Also, instead of the wonderfully entertaining Constitutional law discourse above, perhaps you all should take a look at a more pertinent document, the anti-scalping statute in New York.  It is questionable there actually exists illegal activity in the first place and since Cornell does not print face value on season tickets, one can sell it for whatever price he sees fit.[/quote]

Really?  I don't have them in front of me, but I'm pretty sure that each ticket on my season ticket sheet has $15 printed on it.

[KeithK]

[q]Really? I don't have them in front of me, but I'm pretty sure that each ticket on my season ticket sheet has $15 printed on it.[/q]Besides, I don't think the "but it wasn't printed on the ticket!" defense will carry much weight in court.

[Cactus12]

Meanwhile, and more importantly, the idiot selling it has 16hrs left and hasn't reached his reserve price...  if it ends that way the only one making money is EBay Inc. on a listing fee.

[KeithK]

[quote Cactus12]Meanwhile, and more importantly, the idiot selling it has 16hrs left and hasn't reached his reserve price...  if it ends that way the only one making money is EBay Inc. on a listing fee.[/quote]That would be a little bit of capitalism that I think we could all appreciate!

[marty]

[quote Beeeej][quote Oat]I am not being sarcastic. I agree with krose. By talking about it, I think we're helping the seller by drawing more attention to this auction.[/quote]

Well, that ship has pretty much sailed.  But you could always fight fire with fire by starting a dummy account and bidding up the price to where nobody will outbid you, then not pay.  Though I would certainly never advise such a thing.

Beeeej[/quote]


Nor would any member of the bar!::drunk::

;-)

[Cop at Lynah]

Cornell doesn't limit the resale of the ticket but New York State does.  The "scalping" laws were amended I believe in 2004-05 and it basically states that if your venue is smaller than 6,000 then you can not resale for more than 15% of the face value.  If the venue is larger than 6,000 than you can get what the market brings.

The problem with this particular situation is that Cornell does not print the value (price) on the ticket thus making prosecution nearly impossible.

[nr53]

i dunno, my tickets say $15.00 on them right under the date and to the right of the starting time. Kinda hard to miss on the season tickets, though I'm not sure if the non-student version (i think they're different though that might just be tickets bought that day) have them.

[jaybert]

[quote Cop at Lynah]Cornell doesn't limit the resale of the ticket but New York State does.  The "scalping" laws were amended I believe in 2004-05 and it basically states that if your venue is smaller than 6,000 then you can not resale for more than 15% of the face value.  If the venue is larger than 6,000 than you can get what the market brings.

The problem with this particular situation is that Cornell does not print the value (price) on the ticket thus making prosecution nearly impossible.[/quote]

This has changed as nr53 mentioned.  The years before there was no price printed (the last 2 seasons at least). This year the season tickets for students say $15.00 as well

[KeithK]

[q]The problem with this particular situation is that Cornell does not print the value (price) on the ticket thus making prosecution nearly impossible.[/q]I find this hard to believe.  If the ticket is part of a season ticket package then the seller knows roughly how much each ticket is worth.  The I don't know defense might work if the final price is close to the border, since it's unclear how much the Harvard ticket specifically was sold for.  But when you sell one ticket for the same price as the entire slate of 15 (?) tickets then it's pretty clear you've exceeded the 15% threshhold.

Now whether the DA would waste his time prosecuting is a different story.  Frankly going after single ticket sellers like this would not be worth the trouble.

[Rita]

The University of Notre Dame has regulations on re-selling of their football (and other) tickets to prevent scalping. The only time that ND football tickets can be "sold" above face value is in an auction-type event that is raising money for the school or a university-approved charity.

http://und.collegesports.com/tickets/tickets-resale.html