The RED-OUT crowd and "it's all your fault" cheer.

[Oat]

Yea, LGR used to be a one-tempo cheer three years ago. Last year, section D, E, F, and G would speed it up until it was just noise. This year, section A and B have apparently learned to do the same.

Let's try it slower and in unison at the Dartmouth game.

[David Harding]

The effective "seive" that Jim and I remember from 1973 was not a jabbing but slow chant as a long, drawn out wail or moan.  The single sylable was drawn out for perhaps five seconds, then repeated immediately.

[Free11Skier]

I've got 4 folks in the 2nd row of B that'll help it along  :-)

[Oat]

Thank you! I'm in section B row 9. I will do my best too. I think in the next few games, I will ask the drummer of the band to help regulate the beat through out the entire cheer (not just the initial counting of the goals we have scored).

[Jacob '06]

[quote Oat]Thank you! I'm in section B row 9. I will do my best too. I think in the next few games, I will ask the drummer of the band to help regulate the beat through out the entire cheer (not just the initial counting of the goals we have scored).[/quote]

Not to burst your bubble, but its 3400 vs. 20. You aren't just going to magically change the way the cheer is done.

[Beeeej]

[quote Jacob '06][quote Oat]Thank you! I'm in section B row 9. I will do my best too. I think in the next few games, I will ask the drummer of the band to help regulate the beat through out the entire cheer (not just the initial counting of the goals we have scored).[/quote]

Not to burst your bubble, but its 3400 vs. 20. You aren't just going to magically change the way the cheer is done.[/quote]

And, just as with the "Let's Go Red" chant that the dummer tries (and fails) to lead for more than two rounds, it will end up sounding even worse because the loud drumbeat will simply drive home how unsynchronized the rest of the crowd is.

Just Don't Bother.™  These things have a way of evolving by themselves.

Beeeej

[RazzBaronZ]

The only way the slow sieve chant will work is if it's done to taunt the opposing goalie during the 1st and 3rd periods, and not during an existing chant.  I didn't think the sieve was going to be for when we score goals, because I agree, that will never work.  The slower LGR will also only work temporarily and within sections A-B if it's started there.

[Travis 02]

A willing individual with a short message on a sign displayed down by the glass between sections A and B (usually at the start of the game is when it's done right?) to get the slow "sieve" cheer going could be very effective, provided people read it.  It just takes on charismatic person and a sign at first.

Effective Sieve cheer:  SLOWLY
sieve, sieve, etc.
It might get people to think about it at least and hey it might catch on.  

But yes I agree completely with all the cheers, they get too fast too quickly, like everyone is trying to be one syllable ahead of the other guy.

[Josh '99]

What I have in my head as a new take on the Sieve chant is slow, but not *as* slow as the Wisconsin chant others have described.  I'm thinking kind of like the existing chant except with the word "sieve" drawn out a bit longer (about as long as "skate" in the remote control goalie), and said about once every 1 1/2 to 2 seconds, and kept up for an extended period of time (a minute or two, at least).

[CowbellGuy]

More to the point, the goal counting is done at the same tempo as Davy and led by the drum, so the crowd continues that tempo for Sieve/IAYF as a natural extension. The day you successfully change the tempo of that cheer is roughly the same day Schafer comes out wearing a pink, ruffled tutu. Even if the band tries to change the tempo it might be too late to retrain the crowd, but they have a much better chance than a smattering of fans around the rink.

Whenever I started a "LGR" in section B, I always did it excruciatingly slow, so it would at least have a reasonable pace for a few seconds before it degraded. Maybe I'm asking too much from a bunch of white people, but even from E or F you can hear the band and A and B well enough to keep pace with them (and the cowbell too), but you have to pay attention to THEM and not the other rhythmically challenged people around you. But of course it's easier to glaze over and be a sheep.

If section C does go back to the students, I'd love to see the band there, if only to help with the unity problems the crowd has developed.

[Beeeej]

Yum... glazed sheep.

Beeeej

[Scersk '97]

[quote CowbellGuy]
If section C does go back to the students, I'd love to see the band there, if only to help with the unity problems the crowd has developed.[/quote]

Ooooo...  I don't know:  depends on the acoustics.  Is behind/across the ice from the home/visitor bench the best/worst place for the band to be?

As a bandsman, I would miss the rail (ah, the secret goodness of the rail) and being nearer the opposing goalie.

NB:  The Pep Band staff should be quite closely involved in how the band gets "seated" after the renovations.

[Lowell '99]

Perhaps it's just me, but I think sometimes the emotion behind a particular goal can (and should) speed up the ensuing cheers.  For example, McCutcheon's game winner would result in a more excited crowd, and therefore a faster cheer.  Sure, it's sometimes more effective when done slowly, but sometimes you can't (and shouldn't) worry about stuff like that after the rush of a clutch score.

[Rosey]

If they move the press box (which I think they're pretty much going to have to, in order to make room for more seats back there), perhaps you guys can take the top 2-3 rows of B & C, which would still put you near the west end, but wider, and therefore closer in theory to every student.

Cheers,
Kyle

[Free11Skier]

I was under the impression that the new sieve cheer was for anytime during the game.  You're not going to be able to change anything that's already been developed.