US Olympians

[Rich S]

No less classy than the obvious runs that cornell took at White, a legit Hobey candidate, late in the game at Lynah in '97.

[Rich S]

How is the question I asked "a flame" when all it did was point out the absurdity of your colleague's "flame"  that Clarkson is a bunch of "goons."

Who's flaming on this topic?  Look no further than your own earlier post for the answer.

[Beeeej]

[quote Rich S]Mr. know-it-all,[/quote]

Mr. Pot,

The only question that was asked was who brought up the subject of Clarkson goonery on an Olympic hockey thread.  I'm quite comfortable with my answer, find yours ridiculous, and will be moving on from here.

Good luck in this weekend's home-and-home, by the way - I expect it will be a far more interesting series than ours.

Beeeej

[Rich S]

If you find my response ridiculous, perhaps you should reread your own, and in addition, read Robb's first one in which he started the fire by making the ridiculous statement that "Clarkson recruits goons."

All I had done was mention Conroy, whose name had already been mentioned when I started this thread, to illustrate the idiocy of the post on the other thread that Clarkson has always been a team of goons.

Then Robb set the fire.  If you can't see that, I can't help you.  Perhaps you should heed Jim Hyla's suggestion that you be civil when others are.

I expect that both home and home series should be interesting to say the least.  Enjoy!

[RichH]

So how was the Jim Rome piece?

Cornell has hung a banner in the last couple of years that lists the alumni who have played in the Olympics.

[DeltaOne81]

The fact is RichS, but bringing up the topic of goon again, in an unrelated thread, you were asking for a flame-fest.

The more controlled amoung would have just ignored that post and continued the conversation. But I would think you've been on the internet long enough to know that bringing up a point of argument is going to cause an argument. If you don't realize that, well, I'm surprised to say the least.

[Rich S]

I hear your point but frankly, I didn't see why an argument was warranted given that it's ridiculous to say that Clarkson is a bunch of goons or recruits only goons now.  "Garbage" as Drew put it.  It just isn't a point of argument as far as I'm concerned.

On your point of being "controlled", is your point that I should be controlled enough to not make a statement that could encourage an argument but that somehow it's okay for the cornell posters who aren't controlled to encourage one with Robb's post as an example?

In the end, all I was doing by citing Conroy (and there are plenty of other examples) is demonstrate how foolish the original poster's claim is.

If that causes people here to take umbrage, well, I'm surprised to say the least as you put it.

[DisplacedCornellian]

First use of the word "goon" in this thread appears in RichS' second post.  Does that settle it?  Thread over?  ok.

[Rich S]

You miss the point.

The first mention(s) of Clarkson goons were in another thread by more than one poster.

While I used the term in the second post here as you indicated, it was done only to point to the previously mentioned Clarkson player in the first post, as a shining example of the typical Clarkson player who was/is not a "goon" and to show how off ridiculous the earlier statements are.

The "flaming" clearly began with Robb's response which is also ridiculous.

[cth95]

Didn't all of your mothers tell you that the best way to get back at an annoying brother or sister was to ignore them?  Or were all of you arguing back and forth an only child? ::rolleyes::

[Beeeej]

I can understand the distinction you're trying to make, Rich, but really, I think it's pretty thin.  If you don't see how your post on an unrelated thread of your own creation was basically the equivalent of holding up a sign that said, "Hey, guys, bring the flaming in here!" then there's not much we can likely say that will help you understand.  As usual, we're all operating in different realities, and nobody is going to change anybody else's mind.

Your desire to have the last word, on the other hand, is likely to perpetuate the useless discussion (as is the similar desire of others).  But I for one am willing to let you have it if you care to respond to this for some reason, so that the thread can die.  I hope my fellow Faithful are as willing.  Cheers.

Beeeej

[RatushnyFan]

[quote ajec1]While I am unfamiliar with NCAA Willie Mitchell, NHL Willie Mitchell (aside from being on my favorite squad, the Minnesota Wild) is a leader on and off the ice (in addition to being freakin hilarious to listen on his weekly interviews on sports radio). In my experience, he is not even close to being goonish on the ice. The Wild could use a goon, in fact, as no one seems to want to rough it up to protect Rolston, Gaborik or Bouchard on the ice. Maybe he was a goon in college; however, that's better than being a pussy in college like one Mr. Brett Hull.[/quote]
That pussy scored an unfathomable 52 goals in '85-'86 (has anyone done more since? agree that the game has changed sinced) and 84 goals in two seasons.  I wish I were the exact same kind of pussy.  May not love everything that he says and does, but hey, I'm just not a very good goal scorer.

As for Mr. Mitchell, I'll stand by my comment that he's somewhat of a goon.  As for not stepping up for players, he just took on Shane Doan on Tuesday for rearranging Andrei Zyuzin's (whopping 12 points this year) face.  Is he somewhat of a goon or does he just stand up for players with low point totals (the heck with those guys like Rolston and Gaborik)?  Don't get me wrong, I wish he was on my Canucks.  But he's somewhat of a goon.  I read that he just mailed for a goon certificate after seeing that he has a profile on HockeyFights.com.

[Jim Hyla]

Wow, all I can say is that alot of people have alot of excess time, or like to carry on unhappy conversations. ::help::
We'll never change some peoples ideas about us or them. However back in The Good Old Days, playing Clarkson was alot of fun, either home or away. BU and Clarkson were more fun for me than Harvard. Alot of it had to do with their rabid fans, god knows it wasn't because of Walker Arena. So Rich why don't we just say that some of us remember that it never used to be about anything other than stellar hockey, however it may have drifted away from what we all would have liked. I for one do think that your school is now much more like the kind of hockey I'd like to see than it was.

[cth95]

To get back on topic, does anyone know who has played in the Olympics (regardless of country) for us?  I am admittedly being lazy and not looking it up.  

I am happy that Erik Cole was chosen.  My mother lives in Potsdam and met him a couple of years ago.  My mother and some friends of hers met him in a local bar without knowing who he was.  When she asked him what he did for work he just said that he had dropped out of Clarkson and was going to make well over $500,000 / year.  She, of course, thought he was full of crap.  He then said he knew where they could get some food, so he took them to another bar and went behind the counter to serve them.  When they asked how he could do that, he just told them that he knew the owner.  Finally, he let on that it was his bar and that he played for the Hurricanes.  She called me that night to ask me if I had heard of him to see if he was telling the truth.  Since then, she always notices his name in the news and watched him in an OLN game the other night.  Anyway, based on that story he seems like he is probably a pretty cool guy.  She also knows Conroy's parents, but I don't know much about him.  Incidentally, can any of you picture an NBA or NFL player being so laid back and modest?

[Tub(a)]

[quote RatushnyFan][quote ajec1]While I am unfamiliar with NCAA Willie Mitchell, NHL Willie Mitchell (aside from being on my favorite squad, the Minnesota Wild) is a leader on and off the ice (in addition to being freakin hilarious to listen on his weekly interviews on sports radio). In my experience, he is not even close to being goonish on the ice. The Wild could use a goon, in fact, as no one seems to want to rough it up to protect Rolston, Gaborik or Bouchard on the ice. Maybe he was a goon in college; however, that's better than being a pussy in college like one Mr. Brett Hull.[/quote]
That pussy scored an unfathomable 52 goals in '85-'86 (has anyone done more since? agree that the game has changed sinced) and 84 goals in two seasons.  I wish I were the exact same kind of pussy.  May not love everything that he says and does, but hey, I'm just not a very good goal scorer.

As for Mr. Mitchell, I'll stand by my comment that he's somewhat of a goon.  As for not stepping up for players, he just took on Shane Doan on Tuesday for rearranging Andrei Zyuzin's (whopping 12 points this year) face.  Is he somewhat of a goon or does he just stand up for players with low point totals (the heck with those guys like Rolston and Gaborik)?  Don't get me wrong, I wish he was on my Canucks.  But he's somewhat of a goon.  I read that he just mailed for a goon certificate after seeing that he has a profile on HockeyFights.com.[/quote]

He is indeed a pussy that "scored" a goal that never happened in the Stanley Cup. He can rot in hockey hell for all I care.