[ot] hahvahd sucks but... fitzpatrick

[jy3]

hahvahd sucks but cant help but cheer for an ivy leaguer having success.
after hahvahd was undefeated last year...
ryan leads the rams to a win today
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051127_STL@HOU
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/547043
Position: QB
Height: 6-2
Weight: 221
Born: 11/24/1982
College: Harvard
NFL Experience: Rookie

congrats

[Al DeFlorio]

Fitzpatrick beat us essentially single-handedly last year in the game at Harvard.  Helluva QB.

[HeafDog]

I didn't watch the game, but he looked great on paper and in the NFL Primetime highlights.  I'm with you guys -- good for him.

(On a side note, however, it was a bit unfair for Tom Jackson and Chris Berman to say that he's the smartest QB in the history of the Rams' organization.  Just because athletes went to Harvard or Cornell or wherever doesn't necessarily make them smart. ::rolleyes:: )

[jaybert]

well, he did score off the charts in the test they take at the rookie combine.....forget the name of it but they felt it was necessary to mention since he pretty much destroyed the test.

[Q]
Fitzpatrick has also drawn considerable attention for his perfect score of 50 on the Wonderlic test at the NFL Combine. In the more than 30 years of the NFL using the test, Fitzpatrick was just the second to register a perfect score. And he did so using just nine of the alloted 12 minutes.
[/Q]

so yes, by their test, he really is the smartest player ever to join the NFL

[jaybert]

well, he did score off the charts in the test they take at the rookie combine.....forget the name of it but they felt it was necessary to mention since he pretty much destroyed the test.

[Q]Fitzpatrick has also drawn considerable attention for his perfect score of 50 on the Wonderlic test at the NFL Combine. In the more than 30 years of the NFL using the test, Fitzpatrick was just the second to register a perfect score. And he did so using just nine of the alloted 12 minutes.[/Q]

so yes, by their test, he really is the smartest player ever to join the NFL

[HeafDog]

[Q]Jason L Wrote:

 well, he did score off the charts in the test they take at the rookie combine.....forget the name of it but they felt it was necessary to mention since he pretty much destroyed the test.

[Q2]
Fitzpatrick has also drawn considerable attention for his perfect score of 50 on the Wonderlic test at the NFL Combine. In the more than 30 years of the NFL using the test, Fitzpatrick was just the second to register a perfect score. And he did so using just nine of the alloted 12 minutes.
[/Q]
so yes, by their test, he really is the smartest player ever to join the NFL [/q]

Ah, yes, that's true.  Forgot about that.  Cool!  :-D

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]HeafDog Wrote:

 [Q2]Jason L Wrote:

 well, he did score off the charts in the test they take at the rookie combine.....forget the name of it but they felt it was necessary to mention since he pretty much destroyed the test.

[Q2]
Fitzpatrick has also drawn considerable attention for his perfect score of 50 on the Wonderlic test at the NFL Combine. In the more than 30 years of the NFL using the test, Fitzpatrick was just the second to register a perfect score. And he did so using just nine of the alloted 12 minutes.
[/Q]
so yes, by their test, he really is the smartest player ever to join the NFL [/Q]
Ah, yes, that's true.  Forgot about that.  Cool![/q]
Well, if he's competing with graduates of University High in Florida, it should be no surprise. ::yark::

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/27/sports/ncaafootball/27school.html?pagewanted=1
 

[jkahn]

I've read in some places that the 50 is a rumor and that he actually scored a 38.  However, a 38 is still considered an A+ at Harvard.
Checking on it, I found an article on a St. Louis Rams website quoting Fitzpatrick saying that he had a 38.
http://www.clanram.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-9343.html

15 sample questions appear here:
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

[kaelistus]

Well... Looking at the samples - I messed up the math on one of them so I got 14/15.
Extrapolating conservatively gives me ---> 46/50!

Wooo! I'm smarter than every current NFL player!!!

[BCrespi]

I'm pretty sure it also entails working the problems out under a pretty short time limit.  Additionally, we've all taken tests that have had a major part in determining our future, say the SATs, LSATs, MCATs, etc.  Now imagine you were taking these 50 simple questions under a time-limit with your career and millions of dollars at stake.  Those questions might be a bit tougher.

[kaelistus]

Well the time limit existed on the little sample test so that's out. I made sure to match the same time as the real test. (Hence, stupid math error)

 In fact time is really the whole test. Most educated people I suspect can get every single one of these questions, but they have 14.4 seconds per question!

Anyway, I just realized that I meant my last comment to be tongue in cheek, but it didn't come out that way... This isn't an intelligence test. Its a test on how quickly you can process simple number/logic calculations and follow instructions. By default, engineers should do better than football players.

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]HeafDog Wrote:
On a side note, however, it was a bit unfair for Tom Jackson and Chris Berman to say that he's the smartest QB in the history of the Rams' organization.[/q]

Especially considering that Pat Haden was a Rhodes Scholar.

[heykb]

[Q]HeafDog Wrote:

(On a side note, however, it was a bit unfair for Tom Jackson and Chris Berman to say that he's the smartest QB in the history of the Rams' organization... )[/q]

I feel the need to point out that Pat Haden was a Rhodes scholar. [oops, just noticed it's already been noted.] I went to high school with Pat for a year. He is pretty bright.

OTOH, it's entirely possible that Fitzpatrick is indeed the smartest QB in NFL history. I grew up a Rams fan and have fired them as my favorite team since their ownership has been nuts for a decade or so now. Maybe it's time to consider taking them back.  ;-)

Karl

[ursusminor]

[Q]jkahn Wrote:

15 sample questions appear here:[/q]
Should any of those questions except number 11 take more than 3 to 5 seconds to solve?

[KeithK]

[q]In fact time is really the whole test. Most educated people I suspect can get every single one of these questions, but they have 14.4 seconds per question![/q]Yes, the test is all about time.  Playing pro football doesn't require you to be a genius.  As complicated as they've become, NFL formations and plays are not rocket science.  But you do need to be able to assess game situations quickly and make good decisions quickly based on the information you've gathered.