Cornell 4 @ Harvard 3 postgame thread (11/11/05)

[French Rage]

The great moment was when the Harvard fans started chanting "SUNY Cornell".  Because, of course, it's not like SUNY schools are named after their local towns are anything, so their naming scheme made complete sense.  About as much sense as "UMass Harvard".

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]French Rage Wrote:

The great moment was when the Harvard fans started chanting "SUNY Cornell".  Because, of course, it's not like SUNY schools are named after their local towns are anything, so their naming scheme made complete sense.  About as much sense as "UMass Harvard".[/q]
Remember that Harvard was started with 400 pounds (Sterling) appropriated by the General Court of Massachusetts.  The money was used to buy a cow-yard, where Harvard was built.

[billhoward]

[Q]Anne05 Wrote: Ok, the highlight of this game (for me) besides the GWG was that a Harvard fan and his two kids (who were obnoxious the WHOLE game) got up and left with 5:47 left in the game and said to our section "Better luck next year guys." To which I replied "It ain't over yet." I was deeply satisfied to have Cornell come back and win and am cherishing the moment he finds out and has to tell his kids that Harvard LOST. Ha ha ha.

This was my first Cornell game this year and it was really fun to watch the high intensity play of this year's team.  Scott was impressive and yes, Chris Abbott did play.  Moulson is awesome as well.  Go Cornell!
[/q]The twit's grandfather probably had tickets for but failed to show up for Babe Ruth's called home run ... and tells tales about how awesome it was to be there.

[billhoward]

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]French Rage Wrote:

The great moment was when the Harvard fans started chanting "SUNY Cornell".  Because, of course, it's not like SUNY schools are named after their local towns are anything, so their naming scheme made complete sense.  About as much sense as "UMass Harvard".[/Q]
Remember that Harvard was started with 400 pounds (Sterling) appropriated by the General Court of Massachusetts.  The money was used to buy a cow-yard, where Harvard was built.[/q]
a) excellent piece of trivia
b) we really all should be out working in the yard, enjoying the New England sunshine. Aren't many warm days left in 2005 like this.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 [Q2]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]French Rage Wrote:

The great moment was when the Harvard fans started chanting "SUNY Cornell".  Because, of course, it's not like SUNY schools are named after their local towns are anything, so their naming scheme made complete sense.  About as much sense as "UMass Harvard".[/Q]
Remember that Harvard was started with 400 pounds (Sterling) appropriated by the General Court of Massachusetts.  The money was used to buy a cow-yard, where Harvard was built.[/Q]
a) excellent piece of trivia
b) we really all should be out working in the yard, enjoying the New England sunshine. Aren't many warm days left in 2005 like this.
[/q]
Dunno.  It's still nippy here.  Warms up manana.

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 [Q2]Anne05 Wrote: Ok, the highlight of this game (for me) besides the GWG was that a Harvard fan and his two kids (who were obnoxious the WHOLE game) got up and left with 5:47 left in the game and said to our section "Better luck next year guys." To which I replied "It ain't over yet." I was deeply satisfied to have Cornell come back and win and am cherishing the moment he finds out and has to tell his kids that Harvard LOST. Ha ha ha.

This was my first Cornell game this year and it was really fun to watch the high intensity play of this year's team.  Scott was impressive and yes, Chris Abbott did play.  Moulson is awesome as well.  Go Cornell!
[/Q]
The twit's grandfather probably had tickets for but failed to show up for Babe Ruth's called home run ... and tells tales about how awesome it was to be there.

[/q]

He probably figured the Sox had the 1978 playoff game wrapped up at 2-0 after six and left early.

[dadeo]

um - well cornell is a SUNY school (partly)
also - SUNY schools are named after the towns they are in?

hmmm - or were you being sarcastic and i just missed it?

[billhoward]

If you can't beat them on the ice, insult their pedigree. Forget that (as Al DeFlorio pointed) your campus was a cow pasture once, too. Forget that your forebears came to America because they didn't like the kind of persecution being practice, and wanted freedom to practice their own kind. Basically, their ancestors got kicked out of Europe a couple centuries before ours did. Less personable, one supposes.

[evilnaturedrobot]

yes, because paying  less for tution is just so disgraceful.

[ugarte]

[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

 [Q2]billhoward Wrote:

 [Q2]Anne05 Wrote: Ok, the highlight of this game (for me) besides the GWG was that a Harvard fan and his two kids (who were obnoxious the WHOLE game) got up and left with 5:47 left in the game and said to our section "Better luck next year guys." To which I replied "It ain't over yet." I was deeply satisfied to have Cornell come back and win and am cherishing the moment he finds out and has to tell his kids that Harvard LOST. Ha ha ha.

This was my first Cornell game this year and it was really fun to watch the high intensity play of this year's team.  Scott was impressive and yes, Chris Abbott did play.  Moulson is awesome as well.  Go Cornell!
[/Q]
The twit's grandfather probably had tickets for but failed to show up for Babe Ruth's called home run ... and tells tales about how awesome it was to be there.

[/Q]
He probably figured the Sox had the 1978 playoff game wrapped up at 2-0 after six and left early.[/q]I think he just meant "Better luck next year. Maybe you can have it wrapped up by the end of the 2d period."

[ben03]

Ignorance is the only factor when someone associates SUNY with Cornell University. The State University of New York has nothing to do with Cornell, at all, ever.

The Morrill Act 1862
An Act donating Public Lands to the several States and Territories which may provide Colleges for the Benefit of Agriculture and the Mechanic Arts.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That there be granted to the several States, for the purposes hereinafter mentioned, an amount of public land, to be apportioned to each State a quantity equal to thirty thousand acres for each senator and representative in Congress to which the States are respectively entitled by the apportionment under the census of eighteen hundred and sixty: Provided, That no mineral lands shall be selected or purchased under the provisions of this act.

Sec. 2. And be it further enacted, That the land aforesaid, after being surveyed, shall be apportioned to the several States in sections or subdivisions of sections, not less than one quarter of a section; and whenever there are public lands in a State subject to sale at private entry at one dollar and twenty five cents per acre, the quantity to which said State shall be entitled shall be selected from such lands within the limits of such State, and the Secretary of the Interior is hereby directed to issue to each of the States in which there is not the quantity of public lands subject to sale at private entry at one dollar and twenty-five cents per acre, to which said State may be entitled under the provisions of this act, land scrip to the amount in acres for the deficiency of its distributive share: said scrip to be sold by said States and the proceeds thereof applied to the uses and purposes prescribed in this act, and for no other use or purpose whatsoever...

Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That all moneys derived from the sale of the lands aforesaid by the States to which the lands are apportioned, and from the sale of land scrip hereinbefore provided for, shall be invested in stocks of the United States, or of the States, or some other safe stocks, yielding not less than five per centum upon the par value of the said stocks; and that the moneys so invested shall constitute a perpetual fund, the capital of which shall remain forever undiminished, (except so far as may be provided in section fifth of this act,) and the interest of which shall be inviolably appropriated, by each State which may take and claim the benefits of this act, to the endowment, support, and maintenance of at least one college where the leading object shall be, without excluding other scientific and classical studies, and including military tactics, to teach such branches of learning as are related to agriculture and mechanic arts, in such manner as the legislatures of the State may respectively prescribe, in order to promote the liberal and practical education of the industrial classes in the several pursuits and professions in life...

Sixth. No State while in a condition of rebellion or insurrection against the government of the United States shall be entitled to the benefit of this Act...

Source: U.S. Statutes at Large 12 (1862): 503.
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/27.htm

The result was the formation of: http://www.nasulgc.org/About_Nasulgc/NASULGC_members.htm of which Cornell University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (aka MIT) are both charter members.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

Ignorance is the only factor when someone associates SUNY with Cornell University. The State University of New York has nothing to do with Cornell, at all, ever.
[/q]
Well, I like to think that, too.  But the folks at SUNY think differently.  From their "history" web page:

"By 1862, the Morrill Act set the stage for the four Ivy League land-grant SUNY colleges that now exist at Cornell University.[/i] The actual State University of New York system did not come together until February of 1948 when New York was the last of the then forty-eight states to establish an official state university. At this time, SUNY consisted of a consolidation of twenty-nine unaffiliated institutions with eleven of them functioning as teachers’ colleges. All of these colleges had unique histories and a common goal to serve New York State. Since then, SUNY has grown to include sixty-four academic institutions that had formerly been independent institutions or were directly founded by the State University of New York.

"SUNY is comprised of sixty-four institutions that include everything from world-renowned community colleges such as the Fashion Institute of Technology, to first-rate graduate schools that include the nation’s top veterinary school."

I think we can all guess to which vet school they lay claim.  I don't believe there's any mention of SUNY on any of the degrees, however, and I don't know what if any oversight the SUNY HQ folks in Albany have on the statutory colleges at Cornell.  Let's hope none.

[ben03]

I knew I was broad brushing and there was something out there  ... thanks Al:-)
FWIW, I think some form of this knowledge should be required on the application.  ::nut::

[Pace]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

The second was on the other end so I couldn't see it much, but someone on the game thread made a comment about McKee after the 3rd goal, which as completely not his fault. It was a beautiful sharp pass across the goal mouth that he had no chance on - would have been a spectacular save.

Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11/12/05 12:15AM by DeltaOne81.[/q]

That someone was me. In my defense, I had no idea what kinda goal it was as I was only following on eLynah. Plus, come on, aren't we all a little exasperated with not having the McKee of last year?

I'd also like to note something quite funny. After my comment, someone (Trotsky I think) commented about offense from the blueline and I replied that I'd like to see that. The second I posted Krantz scored. There were a few comments posted like "there ya go, Pace". I replied with that I'd like to see another goal. As soon as I posted, I saw a post that Scott scored. And then with, like 3 mins to go, eLynah crashed on me for good. So I had to call my friends to ask if we actually won. The moral is that whining works and I should do more of it :-)