NCAA Scholarships change!

[adamw]

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:
I agree that there is so much opportunity for abuse of this that I hope it doesn't pass.
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It is already passed.  We're still trying to sort through the implications.  It delves into extremely arcane NCAA issues.  A day of phone calls has resulted in more confusion, instead of less.  Follow up article soon.

Best I can tell - this was intended to help a case where a school couldn't offer a player any financial aid, because then it would count towards the school's scholarship limit.  In other words, if a player is receiving an athletic scholarship of any sort, then all academic/financial aid gets factored in.  So a player on a half-scholarship, cannot receive financial aid/academic award to fulfill the other half, or else the entire amount is counted towards the scholarship limit.

They were trying to help those kids -- or so they say -- from being prevented from getting financial aid in addition to athletics money.

But I agree with everyone who says the potential for abuse and stockpiling of players outweighs the benefits -- unless there's more we don't know.

[kaelistus]

You know.. The reason I call bullshit is because most of these schools don't have academic scholarships - just athletic ones. So bullshitting about giving academic scholarships to athletes is low. I find the whole concept disgraceful, and I would be ashamed to belong to one of these institutes.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]adamw Wrote:
In other words, if a player is receiving an athletic scholarship of any sort, then all academic/financial aid gets factored in. So a player on a half-scholarship, cannot receive financial aid/academic award to fulfill the other half, or else the entire amount is counted towards the scholarship limit.  They were trying to help those kids -- or so they say -- from being prevented from getting financial aid in addition to athletics money.

But I agree with everyone who says the potential for abuse and stockpiling of players outweighs the benefits -- unless there's more we don't know.[/q]

Perhaps I'm simplistic, but then why not pass a law that said that "financial aid money will not be counted as a scholarship for half-scholarship players."


Yeah, yeah, this would allow them more half-scholarship that are really full scholarship, but it seems much better than this junk. And I'd never resent someone getting money out of need to allow them to attend college.

[KeithK]

[q]Perhaps I'm simplistic, but then why not pass a law that said that "financial aid money will not be counted as a scholarship for half-scholarship players."

Yeah, yeah, this would allow them more half-scholarship that are really full scholarship, but it seems much better than this junk. And I'd never resent someone getting money out of need to allow them to attend college.[/q]I disagree - this would be even more ripe for abuse.  You would suddely have every player on the team who can get financial aid getting as much as they would be entitled to as an ordinary student, with all of the rest paid for by athletics.  Since you can split up athletic scholarships into small pieces, the hockey team would basically be able to stockpile as many players as they wanted, as long as they weren't all from well off families.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 [Q2]Perhaps I'm simplistic, but then why not pass a law that said that "financial aid money will not be counted as a scholarship for half-scholarship players."

Yeah, yeah, this would allow them more half-scholarship that are really full scholarship, but it seems much better than this junk. And I'd never resent someone getting money out of need to allow them to attend college.[/Q]
I disagree - this would be even more ripe for abuse.  You would suddely have every player on the team who can get financial aid getting as much as they would be entitled to as an ordinary student, with all of the rest paid for by athletics.  Since you can split up athletic scholarships into small pieces, the hockey team would basically be able to stockpile as many players as they wanted, as long as they weren't all from well off families.
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With a requirement that atheletic scholarships are decided before any financial aid applications/calculations?


Nothing's perfect, but it seems to me this is better than encouraging them to take easy courses and encouraging professors to grade athletes too easily.

[marty]

Speak of the devil, I posted comments concerning Juneau yesterday and today the Times Union runs this story:

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=417585&category=SPORTS&BCCode=&newsdate=11/9/2005

"I've already started looking at projects to see how I could help," Juneau said.

Maybe the head coaching position?

[ursusminor]

[Q]marty Wrote:

 Speak of the devil, I posted comments concerning Juneau yesterday and today the Times Union runs this story:



"I've already started looking at projects to see how I could help," Juneau said.

Maybe the head coaching position?



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