MSU 4, Cornell 3 post-game (game 2) thread

[proof of concept]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 Penn's basketball fans had one of the all-time best cheers when they made it to the NCAA Final Four and get blown apart by Magic Johnson's Spartans. This may not have been the first usage, but I believe it was at the time the most publicized usage of the chant,

That's all right / That's okay / You're gonna work / For us someday.

[/q]

That's used by the fans of a lot of schools that are considered to be on a higher academic tier (see: Rice football fans, among others).

Also, while not in any sort of a formal cheer format, I did hear someone in D or E yelling something to that effect.

If you want to be particularly derogitory, there was the cheer that erupted in the stands at the Cornell/Ithaca College club game during the line last year: "Flip My Burger (clap clap clapclapclap)."  There were a lot of IC kids at the game (for a club game) and they were not happy about that one.

[redhair34]

[Q]Chris '03 Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 What amazed me most were the two interference calls on Pokuluk.  I always though interference is hitting away from the puck.  The two plays were identical, with the puck a foot away.  He was playing defense.  MSU tied the game on the ensuing poewrplay of the second idiotic call.[/Q]
On the webcast, they caught a pretty good angle on the first call. The shot was from the D/E corner. To me it looked like Sasha threw a pretty good elbow on the puck carrier and when I heard the whistle I figured that was the call. "Interference" seems like the catch-all lazy man's penalty. See something you don't like? Call it interference... or mix it up and call it "obstruction-interference." Who cares if he has the puck, right?  

I don't think the webcast caught the other interference call.
[/q]

I think he did catch him with the elbow.  I stand on the aisle between section D and E, so I had a pretty good view of the call.  The problem is that he is so tall that when he fights for a puck with a smaller player alot of the times if he even moves his arms at all he's going to knock his opponent.  The play was almost identical to the the penalty he was whistled for in the first period of the Sucks game at Albany last year that led to Sucks only goal.

[Oat]

I don't think this is an average Cornell team. This is supposed to be *THE YEAR* to win it all. We were supposed to have 7 seniors. Unfortunately the NHL took away one of our bests. I did not see that coming at all and I just think that Schafer still hasn't found an answer to Hynes' departure..

[oceanst41]

I think I have to agree here. I know some people are concerned about the defensive lapsein the second period, and think it might be a sign of sloppy play in the future, but I left that game really excited. Every year we worry about a Saturday night let down on our first weekend, tired legs are to be expected. But this team came out flying in the third, they cycled well, skated hard and made good decisions with the puck. They could've rolled over after a four goal barrage in the second, but they didn't and I believe that will be a bigger factor down the road than the defensive mistakes. You can teach better defense, you can't teach a team to rally together like they did in the third.

As for the worries about the "Lynah Stampede" ruining the cheering, I think we can agree that the Faithful had a pretty good weekend. It was as loud as I've ever heard it, and it obviously got to MSU. I honestly think that it was louder on Saturday down by two goals than it was on Friday. I think everyone was so impressed by the comeback that  A, B and the band (I couldn't see who was left on the other side of C) had to stay to do few more cheers. One of the better moments I'll remember for a while.

If the team and fans can show up like that for every weekend this is going to be a really exciting season.

[redhair34]

I'd like to borrow the words of Jack Parker and say, "it was men playing with boys" this weekend.  Not in the hockey sense that Parker referred to.  I mean it more literally.  I for one am proud of, and have always been proud of the character of our team.  They always act with dignity, class, mental toughness and heart.  Even when the “boys” were trying to goon it up, they never succumbed to their “goonery.”  But, they didn’t back down from defending each other from the boys’ childish antics.  Still, they never regressed to instigate the opposition or employee any classless or deceitful tactics.  There is no doubt that the team really seemed to “mail it in” during the second period last night.  But it says a lot about our team as men of heart, will and character that they were able to come back with their backs against the wall and put forth the necessary effort to get a victory.  Although we came up short on the scoreboard, in my mind this game was truly a moral victory.  I think they learned a lot about themselves last night, and they should be proud, not ashamed.  It’s not about getting the number one seed; it’s about winning the national championship.  It’s about having the best team; it’s not about having the easiest path to the championship.  What we saw in the third period last night is the stuff the best teams are made of.          

[redhair34]

[Q]Will Wrote:
For those of you on the student side, how did my sign look?  We got a few "Bald, bald, bald..." chants going throughout the game, some started by me, some started by the student side.  I think it worked well, but I want to make sure my sign was actually clear, in case I want to do more signs in the future.[/q]

Great!  Please tell me you are going to use that sign when Sucks comes to town!

[Will]

[Q]proof of concept Wrote:

If you want to be particularly derogitory, there was the cheer that erupted in the stands at the Cornell/Ithaca College club game during the line last year: "Flip My Burger (clap clap clapclapclap)."  There were a lot of IC kids at the game (for a club game) and they were not happy about that one.[/q]

To be fair, the IC student fans had already taken "support for their team" to a whole new (low) level.  They were openly, blatantly giving us the finger en masse.  They were shouting "Fuck Cornell" and the like.  I believe one of them may have stolen the Cornell club starting goalie's mask between periods.  (Anyone know if that mystery was ever solved?)  I guess without the NCAA to govern things, they didn't feel the need to restrain themselves. ::rolleyes::  "Flip my burger" was a lot better than those classless morons deserved.

[Dafatone]

Normally, I'd say we should stick to losing with class, and restricting ourselves somewhat on postgame taunting when we lose.

But with MSU playing such a cheap game (I thought they were dropping every time they got hit to draw calls, and Aberka-something took multiple cheap shots after play stopped, including one on Mckee), forget class.

Let's just win the rest of our games at home and not have to use a losing cheer.

[Oat]

[Q]Chris '03 Wrote:

Anyone else find it ironic that this "cheer" isn't even in remotely proper english? "Which school is an ivy league?" Come on now... one school a league does not make.

I don't think you need to go looking to fill the void of "winning team" when the team doesn't win. I don't think the band should come up with a song besides "Schafer" to play after losses. I think there are nice traditions that go along with winning and I think that the absence of such traditions after a loss is important.[/q]

First of all, I did not make up the cheer. Someone lead this cheer a few years ago. I participated and thought it was funny. Haha, I did not know of the "shitstorm" afterwards probably because I was wasted all weekend (A-19, what happened?).

I'm an engineer, so improper English doesn't really bother me. In Lynah, my intuitive English tongue exists only for the purpose of offending the visiting team
(and the refs sometimes)

[ctenah]

well said

[TCHL8842]

The main positive I see from this series is that we are going to be ready and game tested for the start of the ECAC season.  We got Yale and Brown next week, neither of which have played a game, and I think these are two very winnable games.  We need some of these games before going to Lynah East and Dartmouth in two weeks.

[billhoward]

This was a two-year home-and-home series vs. Michigan State? Do we have an early line on whether the series will extend, or we'll try some other CCHA/WCHA team?

[calgARI '07]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 This was a two-year home-and-home series vs. Michigan State? Do we have an early line on whether the series will extend, or we'll try some other CCHA/WCHA team? [/q]

Well based on the way things ended and the obvious heat between Schafer and Comley, I do not expect these teams to meet unless it is in the NCAA Tournament.

[billhoward]

Sometimes the agreement to do an East-meets-West series comes from ties when the head coach was an assistant someplace else and the someplace else agrees to play the new head coach's team, or the two head coaches were assistants together someplace before. It seems to seldom be "what would be a great early season matchup that would be great for college hockey?" although this one turned out that way since both teams were in the top ten. I believe you said Michigan sneered at the idea of playing in a sub-4,000-seat arena even if there's the natural angle of Lehman's law school vs. Lehman's -- oops, too late for that one.

Personally, I'd like to see Cornell and Colorado College go at it in the early season. USCHO and INCH would probably beat to death the Ivy League of the West meets Ivy League angle.

[hgr23]

i dont know if it was already said, but does anyone know exactly what happened to pegoraro after the breakaway? i saw the blood on the ice, but no idea what actually happened?