5 minute majors and PP%?

[CowbellGuy]

If team A gets a 5 minute major and team B scores twice, does that show up as going 1/1, 2/1, or 2/2 on the box score?  ::help::

[Greg Berge]

It shows as 2/3, unless the second ppg is scored at the exact second the penalty expires, in which improbable case it shows as 2/2.

Each time the team scores, another pp begins.

[CowbellGuy]

Really? First time I heard that. ok. Thanks

[Greg Berge]

Welcome.

[jtwcornell91]

Actually, I think it's 2/3 in any event.  If there's no penalty time on the clock when the goal is scored, it's not a PPG.  I'm not sure if it says that explicitly, although I believe I read something in the scorer's rules that no goal can be scored at 20:00 of a period; even if they don't drop the puck at center ice after the goal, it still goes down at 19:59.

BTW, the NCAA rules are on line at http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2002/2002_ice_hockey_rules.pdf and the statistician's manual is at http://www.ncaa.org/library/statistical/ice_hockey_stats_manual/2002/2002_ice_hockey_stats_man.pdf

[jtwcornell91]

Section 8, article 3:

Penalties are considered to still be in effect at the moment of expiration, 2:00 (or 5:00 for majors) after they begin. A Team White goal scored at the 2:00 mark of a Team Blue minor penalty is considered a power-play goal.

So I was wrong.  In fact, Article 4 goes on to say that a team can be perfect on a major power play if they score at the moment it expires.  They also mention that a team can be perfect on a major power play if they take a penalty at the same stoppage as the goal which wipes out the rest of the PP.  (Presumably also if they score a PPG on a major in overtime.)

The thing that was confusing me is that Section 8 Article 2 says

A goal scored two minutes after a penalty has begun is NOT considered a power-play goal. When the clock hits that two - minute mark, the penalty is over.

which seems to imply the opposite of what follows.