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[Beeeej]

Age - can you supply a URL for that poll, please?  I'm having trouble finding it.  Thanks!

Beeeej

[CowbellGuy]

It's on the main uscho.com page in the lower righthand corner.  ::uhoh::

[Beeeej]

Thanks!  That'll teach me to make a search more complicated than it needs to be.  :-{)}

Beeeej

[zg88]

> ...I think they should use his pic from the cover of the '86 Media Guide. He looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy in a Cornell sweater.

:-))

Greg, I don't know if it's the same picture or not, but I have the '83 media guide -- with what is definitely Schafer as a freshman.  It is exactly as you describe!  (And it's exactly how I've thought of that picture for the last 19 years!)   ::laugh::

(Freshman Schafer is introduced to the Cornell community as:  "...a steady performer who adds winning habits to the Big Red..."  (I think we could classify that one as an understatement...)).  :-)

[melissa]

Coach answers the rotation question - sort of - in Friday's Sun. Though he doesn't  say which way it'll go.......


I'm fairly certain it'll be Undy seeing that there isn't that much difference between his and Lenny's numbers and this is Undy's last year. Any opinions? Preferences?  Undy seems to want that ECAC title bad! After coming close so many times I really hope that he gets the opportunity!

[jtwcornell91]

In other words, tie goes to the Senior?

[jtwcornell91]

Incidentally, the article states that we clinch the playoffs with a sweep this weekend.  Actually, all we need is one point to clinch the postseason.  (Tim Danehey summed it up best: since there are 132 total games in the ECAC season, the only way a team with 24 points can end up in 11th place is if the 12th place team has 0 points.)

[ugarte]

Maybe Tim Danehey summed it up too much.  How does he figure the math? (Not that I don't believe you, just curious.)

[Keith K]

Well, I won't try that math this early in the morning, but a quick look a John's Nutshell page shows that a Cornell sweep clinches at least 7th place for the Red (guarantees finishing ahead of UVM, brown, Yale, Princeton and either RPI/SLU).  If the bounces go right we could actually wrap up home ice by Sunday (though I'd rather see Clarkson lose to Union I think).

[Neil Shapiro \'83]

Math is correct.   132 games, so 264 pts.

Only possible way for 24 pts to be 11th is if only one team has less than 24, and 24x11 = 264 so must be an 11-way tie for 1st (and 11th)...but not possible since nobody has 0 pts....so 24 pts must finish in top 10.


I think that because the Vermont has 7 pts already, I think this means that the worst Cornell can do is finish in a 7 way tie for 5th-11th, and I will yield to someone with way more time than I have to determine if that is possible....and if we could lose that tiebreak.

[Neil Shapiro \'83]

Gosh, after 18 years, I finally put those Math major skills to work....I guess it was all worth it.

[Greg Berge]

I haven't done the math, but it may still be that Cornell has already technically clinched a playoff berth because of the further effects of the bottom teams' playing one another down the stretch.  It may not be possible for the final points among the top 11 teams to distribute evenly enough that all finish over 23.  (Then again, it may.)  The question is whether there is a scenario that awards:

Brown 13 pts
RPI 12
Princeton, SLU, and Yale 11
etc...

My intuition is that there is not: the accumulation of n-1 of those outcomes will render the nth impossible.

These interference effects get ignored all the time in the wildcard races in baseball and hockey.  Teams generally fall out of the wildcard race two or more games before the newspapers recognize that they are statistically eliminated, because games between the teams that they must overtake are not sufficiently considered.

In a related story, Cornell has already clinched a playoff berth in 2002-03.

[jtwcornell91]

Tim worked it out; there are combinations of results in which we lose a 10-way tie breaker for 2nd-11th place.

[zg88]

> In a related story, Cornell has already clinched a playoff berth in 2002-03.

Hilarious and disgusting at the same time, Greg...

:-))    :-(    ::yark::    ::help::

[Josh '99]

Greg Berge wrote:

In a related story, Cornell has already clinched a playoff berth in 2002-03.

Wow, sounds like something a BC fan would say.  :-P