Cornell vs. Minnesota post game thread

[Mike]

To all of you who are saying its obryne's fault. Youre really starting to piss me off. Lay off the kid. He is out there working his ass of for you guys. He is out there doing his best. Id like to see you guys get out there and work your ass of take the hits make the plays skate your hardest. And he makes a couple of mistakes and your on him. I mean yes a part of both those goals were his fault but what about mckee (who by the way was standing on his head out there!! amazing performance) who shouldhave had his stick down. His one and only mistake. Ive never seen a better goaltending performance then that. And on the secon goal...what about the ref?? I know the rule as if the puck is held up for 3-4 seconds play is blown dead. Obryne had it held for atleast six seconds. Cornell fans have alot to look forward to with one of the best goaltenders coming back next year and this amazing junior class we have coming back next season also. Now on to aseball. Lets go Red Sox!!

[Nathan Chicowdy 92]

What do we need to do to be the "host school" for a regional in Buffalo, Albany or . . . gasp . . . MSG?  Whatever it is, the AD should get it done this summer.

[billhoward]

At this level of play - this is not rec league hockey - it's okay to point fingers if the guy really is to blame. Several tired players executed imperfectly in the final minute so IMO it's not okay to blame one guy.

[Facetimer]

[Q]Mike Wrote:

 To all of you who are saying its obryne's fault. Youre really starting to piss me off. Lay off the kid. He is out there working his ass of for you guys. He is out there doing his best. Id like to see you guys get out there and work your ass of take the hits make the plays skate your hardest. And he makes a couple of mistakes and your on him. I mean yes a part of both those goals were his fault but what about mckee (who by the way was standing on his head out there!! amazing performance) who shouldhave had his stick down. His one and only mistake. Ive never seen a better goaltending performance then that. And on the secon goal...what about the ref?? I know the rule as if the puck is held up for 3-4 seconds play is blown dead. Obryne had it held for atleast six seconds. Cornell fans have alot to look forward to with one of the best goaltenders coming back next year and this amazing junior class we have coming back next season also. Now on to aseball. Lets go Red Sox!! [/q]

You're right, as long as everyone is out there trying their best, we all go home winners!   ::screwy::

Face it, O'Byrne sucks, and we all know it.  There have been threads and polls about this all over the eLynah Forum.  This isn't new.  Hockey players get it all at Cornell: easy courses and grading, ass, "need-based" financial aid, and respect (not to mention favorable admissions).  All the other guys on the team earn it.  It's time for O'Byrne to step up and earn his keep.

I hope he has a LONG horrible off-season.

[Dpperk29]

It's funny, after reading this thread, alot of the posters here are twofaced. All season the team is praised and heralded as a team that deserves a number one seed, and today, you are bashing one of our best defensemen. I am CU fan, I love CU Hockey, and I am not about to let my disapointment that the season is over cloud my judgement to the point were I bash one of the better defensemen on the team!

[Mike]

Dpperk I couldnt agree with you more. Allof you guys bashing obryne. Youre not true fans. One thing goes wrong you bash him. What would you all be saying if he scored. You would all be saying Obryne is the best. Grow up. Hes on a team. A team wins and losses together. Dpperk again I couldnt agree with you more.

[Dpperk29]

Mike, I may have some mild criticisms in a few days after the initial pain of losing is over, but I am not going to bash anyone now. It isn't right... summary judgement is never good...

[dbilmes]

As disappointing as it was to watch O'Byrne seemingly give away the game, you really can't be too hard on him. Cornell had chances in the 2nd and then early in OT that could have easily lead to goals, and the way Minnesota played in the 1st we could have been out of the game after one period. So, we've got to be happy with the season--winning ECACs and then going out showing we can play with Minny at Minny. Next year looks to be awesome, and we might luck out and get to play NCAAs at Albany, which certainly would give us a big advantage. And, O'Byrne's got a lot of months to think about what happened. We'll be looking at a different player next year.

[redice]

[Q]Mike Wrote:

 To all of you who are saying its obryne's fault. Youre really starting to piss me off. Lay off the kid. He is out there working his ass of for you guys. He is out there doing his best. Id like to see you guys get out there and work your ass of take the hits make the plays skate your hardest. And he makes a couple of mistakes and your on him. I mean yes a part of both those goals were his fault but what about mckee (who by the way was standing on his head out there!! amazing performance) who shouldhave had his stick down. His one and only mistake. Ive never seen a better goaltending performance then that. And on the secon goal...what about the ref?? I know the rule as if the puck is held up for 3-4 seconds play is blown dead. Obryne had it held for atleast six seconds. Cornell fans have alot to look forward to with one of the best goaltenders coming back next year and this amazing junior class we have coming back next season also. Now on to aseball. Lets go Red Sox!! [/q]


I can't speak for the rest, but I can say, for myself,  that my feelings about O'Byne's play are not about "a couple of mistakes."   He's made some really poor decisions with the puck.    He's receiving the same coaching that these other fine student/athletes are receiving.   But, Ryan's not getting it.   The people who say that he's not solely responsible for the defeat are quite correct.    But, he was responsible for that puck coming out in front of McKee.   That's indisputable.   Let there be no mistake, his "couple of mistakes" are but two in a long line of mistakes that he's made.   I fully respect the effort that these guys make to be such a great team.  Although I don't know that I agree with your assertion that they're doing it for us.    I hope they may have other motivations.   Also, it's irrelevent whether any of us could/would work our asses off to play hockey.    I, for one, would have to turn back the hands of time and that probably still wouldn't make me able to compete at that level.    But, I (we) still have the right to voice our opinions.    If that pisses you off, so be it.    My, the emotions are strong this evening.   Oh, an by the way, the Red Sox still suck! :-D

[DeltaOne81]

I don't think anyone can disagree that O'Byrne makes more than his share of mistakes, and that he really needs to work on some things.

I think the reaction here is not that O'Byrne is perfect, or even that he doesn't need improvement in some critical ways, but just that with everything that went on today, with 2 or 3 mistakes on that final play, with McKee not getting his stick down on the first goal, with our inability to get many offensive opportunities before the late 3rd... its not fair to put the loss all on O'Byrne. He may have made some mistakes, that, in part lead to the goals, but it was far from the only thing that went wrong today. And even with all that, we still were in a tremendous position to win the game.

Yes, O'Byrne makes mistakes, more than most of the others and probably more than he should, but to put the entire loss on his shoulders isn't fair.

That said, its weird that this was the 'big recruit' we beat Maine out for. Perhaps next time we're against Maine, we shouldn't fight so hard . J/k, I think O'Byrne has major potential once he gets his head on straight, and with the way Iggy, Varteressian, and all the others turned out under Schafer's leadership, I don't think we have too much to worry about.

[billhoward]

Is anyone else thinking: We saw O'Byrne make some mistakes this year that led to some goals ...

... we saw him in the corner from where the puck popped out in the final five seconds of Cornell's season ...

... but maybe Mike Schafer is a better judge of hockey talent than we are and Schafer sees something in O'Byrne that makes O'Byrne a starter?

[oceanst41]

Well tough game, but really are any of the reasonable posters on this board surprised? We all know Cornell can beat any team when they are on their game, but most people thought this team wasn't as good as the Frozen Four team. And also many thought they were better than the 01-02 team. That puts us somewhere between losing the regional final and making the frozen four, so i think an OT loss in this game was about where everyone thought this team should be.

It was pretty clear that it took the guys too long to get into their game, but once we did we were really taking it to Minny. The shot differential may look bad, but i agree with earlier posts that a lot of the shots weren't great scoring chances .

That said the OT loss sucked, but you can't pin it on O'Byrne. The ref had a quick whistle all day along the boards, and Cornell had just come from a pretty sustained shift in the Minny zone. O'Bryne looked like he was trying to get his teammates a chance to change up, the whistle didn't blow and we got burned. Ryan's man was the guy he pinned to the boards, not the one who took the puck and scored. No one jumped on Sasha when he took a bad line on Fritsche yesterday - if this OT goal had come in regulation this would be an afterthought, but that's just my opinion.

Great season, great seniors and can't wait for next year

[billhoward]

Can't wait for Age to reset the countdown timer to the first faceoff this fall.

[rYe]

I didnt say O'Byrne cost the game. He def. did NOT. You are right about Cornell not being in position. Clearing it off the glass correctly leads to the puck being cleared out to center ice. Not to the de. As for McKee, i feel he does deserve the Hobey. People thought just because he had a great defensive team in front of him, this is reason for his great stats. He proved all of them that he can hold his own. But we already knew this.

[cth95]

     Hey, guys.  Unlike in 02-03, I think if anyone of us had been asked in November where we expected this season to end we would have been more than satisfied to hear an overtime loss AT Minnesota in the final eight after an ECAC title.  Yes, McKee could have had his stick down on the first goal and yes O'Byrne could have cleared the puck (or the ref could have whistled it dead), but we never had the puck in the Minnesota end in nearly all of the first two periods.  No one is perfect, and if McKee wasn't as good as he is and the defense wasn't as tight as it is we could have easily been down 3-0 by the middle of the second and had no chance.  
     I give this team great credit for dominating Harvard after going down a goal in the ECAC's,  hanging in against OSU and then turning it on after a rough start, and never giving up and even forcing OT against Minnesota when everything in the world was favoring the Gophers (what the hell kind of a mascot is that?).  They never once hung their heads despite some pretty big adversities.  (Think we had enough penalties in both games?)
     We are losing some key players, but we are not losing a large number of them.  This loss should motivate this team to go even further next year.

LET"S GO RREEEDDDDDD!