Quit BITCHING about seeding

[jeh25]

Look, we really need to quit bitching about where we were seeded. Yes, we had the best record in college hockey, but we also had the 35th toughest schedule.  How did we do against teams in the top half?

Look at our record. Seriously, look at it.

Lost to #3 BC
Lost to #12 Harvard
Tied to #17 Colgate
Lost and tied #18 Michigan State
Tied #23 UVM
Lost to #26 DC

Were we hot down the stretch? Sure. But we also had a crummy Nov and we tanked 3 *key* NC games.

I'm not busting on the team at all. Frankly, I think this has been a great season. But the "we got screwed" talk is getting old. We weren't a number 1 seed because of our own performance on the ice.  

But you know what? Last no.1 seed or first no.2 seed, nobody out there wants to face our D. And more importantly, in a 16 team tourney, it still takes just 4 wins to bring it home no matter what your seed, so here's to 4 wins. Let's go red!

[atb9]

I look at those early season road loses and it just reminds me how young the team is.  It's a great time to be a Cornell hockey fan.

[puff]

I agree completely. Yeah, maybe we got screwed, but life's not fair so you just have to deal with it (i learned it from my dad when he gave my sister 15 m&ms and i only got 10).

Suck it up, kick some ass and don't bother taking names.

LETS GO RED!!!!

[Stephen Turner]

Minnesota deserves a #1 over us?  They lost 14 games, including 2 to Mich Tech and 2 to Anchorage.  The are only a #1 due to 10-0 vs St. Cloud and Mankato, both with losing records.

[JordanCS]

Here's the thing...if we were the 4th number 1, and Minn. was the first number 2, we'd be the number 1 seed in.....probably Minnesota!  The only change is we play OSU instead of Maine in the first round.  Not worth complaining over.

[jeh25]

[Q]puff Wrote:

 Yeah, maybe we got screwed, but life's not fair so you just have to deal with it [/q]

Agreed. Life sucks. Get a helmet.

[Stephen Turner]

No, if we were a #1, we would stay east.

[French Rage]

I agree.  Quit whining.  #1 would be nice, but these games are definitely winnable.  sure Minnesota has a good home crowd, but it sure as shit hasnt helped them at times this year.  And their goalie sucks.  So while nothing is a given anything is possible.

Plus they have cheerleaders.  Cheerleaders at a fucking hockey game.  What a joke from the "state of hockey".

[jeh25]

[Q]Stephen Turner Wrote:

 Minnesota deserves a #1 over us?  [/q]

Yes, for two reasons:

First, we lose the direct pairwise comparision.

            Minnesota              vs         Cornell
          .5680   0   RPI     1     .5882    
22-10-0   .6875   1   TUC     0     .6563     9-4-3
1-0-0     1.000   1   COp     0     .2500     0-1-1
0-0-0             0   H2H     0     0-0-0
                  2   TOT     1    

You need to know how these criteria are applied before you complain.

Second, they're ahead of us using the Bradley-Terry method:

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=krach

[atb9]

[Q]French Rage Wrote:

 I agree.  Quit whining.  #1 would be nice, but these games are definitely winnable.  sure Minnesota has a good home crowd, but it sure as shit hasnt helped them at times this year.  And their goalie sucks.  So while nothing is a given anything is possible.

Plus they have cheerleaders.  Cheerleaders at a fucking hockey game.  What a joke from the "state of hockey".[/q]

It seems like we're all coming to a consensus that these games are winnable in Minneapolis.  Can people be upset that most of us won't be able to see the regional games in person?  ;-)  I think people would be less upset if they knew they'd be able to watch the OSU game on TV.

If my memory serves me correctly from Buffalo, those skating cheerleaders made me quite jealous of Minnesota hockey--it's proof of how popular hockey is in Minnesota.  It's not like it was W on skates... :-P

[jy3]

[Q]atb9 Wrote:

 [Q2]French Rage Wrote:

 I agree.  Quit whining.  #1 would be nice, but these games are definitely winnable.  sure Minnesota has a good home crowd, but it sure as shit hasnt helped them at times this year.  And their goalie sucks.  So while nothing is a given anything is possible.

Plus they have cheerleaders.  Cheerleaders at a fucking hockey game.  What a joke from the "state of hockey".[/Q]
It seems like we're all coming to a consensus that these games are winnable in Minneapolis.  Can people be upset that most of us won't be able to see the regional games in person?    I think people would be less upset if they knew they'd be able to watch the OSU game on TV.

If my memory serves me correctly from Buffalo, those skating cheerleaders made me quite jealous of Minnesota hockey--it's proof of how popular hockey is in Minnesota.  It's not like it was W on skates...[/q]

or a big large puck or buckeye or whatever the hell he is. MAKE FUN OF HIM! we had fun doing this at the regionals in 2003. remember to give those tosu fans hell for having that odd mascott.
i am ready for these games. not sure if i am going to be able to watch or listen to round 1 to see the results of the 2 games in our bracket but i have faith. LGR!


edit: woofing gods, by "these games" I am referring to the first round of games, namely 2, in our bracket, and I am not referring to the second game that cornell would play if they won.

[jeh25]

[Q]French Rage Wrote:

Plus they have cheerleaders. Cheerleaders at a fucking hockey game.  [/q]



Maybe Hermo can find the old USCHO thread, because, dude, they're [censored] hot.

[RichS]

Agreed....go out there and win the games...do the ECAC proud!

[Stephen Turner]

Those of us who planned to go to the games if they were in Amherst or Worcester, and can't get to Minnesota, have every right to be pissed about the seeding.

[jeh25]

[Q]Stephen Turner Wrote:

 Those of us who planned to go to the games if they were in Amherst or Worcester, and can't get to Minnesota, have every right to be pissed about the seeding.[/q]



Amherst and Worcester are 71 & 81 miles from my house, respectively, and Worcester, with its' Friday games, is only 48 miles from my office. Where do you think I wanted Cornell to get seeded? Especially since I passed on going to Albany to save money for an NCAA ticket? Hmm?

Doesn't change the fact that Cornell was seeded properly.

Grow a set or get a helmet.