game worn jerseys avail. for sale

[jeh25]

[Q]jkahn Wrote:

 Finally got in contact with the issue room - only 1 Red and 11 Red are left - which I passed on.  There was a very prominent #1 in my years on the Hill but I was afraid the sweater would be too big.[/q]

Not picking on Jeff here, but his comment made me think of something that came up at Anna Liffies last weekend.

Does anybody else have a problem with intentionally slapping the wrong name on a gamer? If you know the vintage, shouldn't you put the correct name on it?

For example, at one point I traded my #17 Karam for a nameless #9 Svoboda that I fully intended to put Svoboda on. (I never did, since I traded back at the end of the season since a 56 looks silly on my 5'11 frame.) Putting Varterresian, Papp or Dragon on it just seems wrong to me.

Certainly, a McRae #17 is more desirable than a Peach #17, but if you know you have Keith's gamer, you shouldn't throw a McRae nameplate on it.  Likewise, even though it isn't clear whether the #11 still available belonged to Carefoot or Francis, putting Tymchyshyn on the back just ain't right.

My $.02.

[ugarte]

[Q]jeh25 Wrote:
Does anybody else have a problem with intentionally slapping the wrong name on a gamer? If you know the vintage, shouldn't you put the correct name on it?[/q]I'm with you. I bought Travis Bell's jersey because he wore Dan Ratushny's number. Even though I know why I bought the jersey, I also liked Bell's game an awful lot and it would feel like a slap at him if I put Ratushny's nameplate on his jersey. Anything I put on wouldn't be the real nameplate anyway, so it might as well be a bumper sticker.

I'd rather just keep it as it is: big #2 on the back, little ones on the sleeves and stitch scars where the plates used to be. Oh yeah, and Cornell across the front - which is what really matters.

[jkahn]

[Q]jeh25 Wrote:

 [Q2]jkahn Wrote:

 Finally got in contact with the issue room - only 1 Red and 11 Red are left - which I passed on.  There was a very prominent #1 in my years on the Hill but I was afraid the sweater would be too big.[/Q]
Not picking on Jeff here, but his comment made me think of something that came up at Anna Liffies last weekend.

Does anybody else have a problem with intentionally slapping the wrong name on a gamer? If you know the vintage, shouldn't you put the correct name on it?.[/q]

I wouldn't have thought of putting "Dryden" on the sweater.  For that matter, an authentic Cornell Dryden uniform would not have "Dryden" on it.  It would be good to have a number which I could relate to for both the current era and for my undergrad years.  Although I've often thought that they should be selling them with class years, and having a 70 on the back would work for me.

Anyway - does anyone know in what year names first appeared on the back of Cornell uniforms?

[RichH]

[Q]jeh25 Wrote:

Does anybody else have a problem with intentionally slapping the wrong name on a gamer? If you know the vintage, shouldn't you put the correct name on it?

[/q]
I don't have a problem with other people doing it.  They can put a magic-marker smiley face on theirs, if they want.  But for my collection, I certainly wouldn't.  In fact, I haven't made any secondary alterations to any of mine, which includes getting PSP to make replacement nameplates, getting conference patches, etc.  Part of it is laziness and worries about the quality.  Part of it is adding something that isn't authentic to an authentic.   Maybe if I got a few ECAC patches, I would.  And I did ask around to see if there were any 2003 FF patches to be found, as I have a 2003 jersey in which you can still see the stitch-holes where that special patch went.  The players got to keep the patches; they certainly deserve them more than I.

The first gamer that I bought while I was in school (from 1995) still has the original nameplate, and that was before the teams started wearing conference patches.  Also interesting about that one is that the CCM patch on the hem had been covered up with jersey material.  Maybe they had to do that due to licensing concerns and a Bauer sponsorship with the ECAC that existed back then.  It also cost $40 back then.

I also have a game-worn from the last year the league used the old "torch" league logo patch (1999), so that's still on there, but no nameplate.  You can see the outline of the ass't captain "A" in stitches, which is kind of neat.  That one cost $80.

On one of the two 2003 jerseys I own, you can clearly read the player's name where the nameplate used to be.  It's impressed into the fabric, which I've never seen happen before.

But yeah...I really covet a Frozen Four patch from 2003.  Anyone have any ideas?

[jtwcornell91]

Mom had an Oates nameplate (and an A) put on a #20 jersey for me which we both honestly thought was Oates's at the time, but which I think we've deduced from the conference patch must actually have been Palahicky's freshman jersey.  I'm not exactly losing sleep over it, but it would be cooler if it had actually been worn by Oates.

[Rosey]

Mailed the check Saturday, got the jersey today.  Bill officially rocks. ::rock::

Cheers,
Kyle

[billhoward]

One suspects publicity about the jerseys here helps them sell out. Way to go, eLynah.

One wishes Cornell offered new, unworn game jerseys in sizes that look good (don't droop) when you're not wearing shoulder and elbow pads. Some people prefer really large sportswear; others don't want stuff that comes to your knees. If Topher wears his game-worn jersey over street clothes, it's a wonder he doesn't trip on the hem walking up Libe Slope. (I'm not saying this is the only way Cornell should offer jerseys, but it would be nice as an option.) And maybe you could get them with your class year, not just a famous-player number.

BTW seniors (on the team) get to keep one of their jerseys, don't they?

It would also be nice if Cornell sold a classic jersey, say the one worn by the 1967 or 1970 team. Note Princeton is doing a special run of an old jersey for (how many can there be) Princeton hockey fans for $75.

Mike Schafer is big on traditon and each player is assigned to study up on either (I forget which, someone correct me here) a previoius Cornell player or Cornell players who wore his jersey number. It would be great for tradition if the names of some or all of the previous holders of the jersey numbers were stitched in small lettering on the jerseys, small enough so the NCAA rules-nannies don't have a fit, big enough so it's a reminder of the tradition every time you put the jersey on.

(Not to encourage copyright / trademark infringement, but here's how): If the jersey you own lacks a patch you want, say "Final Four 2003," there are sewing machines, both personal and the commercial kinds a tailor or seamstress has, that embroider not just from mechanical patterns but also from bitmap images. If one were to scan or download an image (resolution isn't all that crucial because embroidery is a bit inexact) you could get it the missing logo in short order. And/or you could inkjet print it on transfer sheets and print onto fabric (like T-shirt transfers) and then stitch that to the jersey.

This would also be the way to get the sport shirt you want with the lettering or logo you want if, say, the Cornell Campus Store lacks the style or quality you're looking for. You can look at is theft of valuable Cornell rights or bringing competition to the logo'd sportswear business. Cornell would not see it that way.

[atb9]

[Q]Nate 04 Wrote:

 It might not look all that great to say "Hey Prez, here's your hockey jersey, sorry we couldn't get you a new one, we could only find you this used one."  I'm sure he'd love it, but there's probably some principle involved....and anyways, more for us![/q]

"...and enjoy your swim in the jersey ya midget!"  ;-)

We can't give him Topher's jersey until next year.

[ben03]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

BTW seniors (on the team) get to keep one of their jerseys, don't they? [/q]
i believe they get the opportunity to purchase them after season.

[Rosey]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

One wishes Cornell offered new, unworn game jerseys in sizes that look good (don't droop) when you're not wearing shoulder and elbow pads. Some people prefer really large sportswear; others don't want stuff that comes to your knees. If Topher wears his game-worn jersey over street clothes, it's a wonder he doesn't trip on the hem walking up Libe Slope.[/q]
What you want is a high-quality replica: a jersey that would look right on a midget playing an actual game of hockey.  Not clear how big the market for these is, because (a) they don't look substantially better than/different from cheap replicas (okay, okay... with the right coloring on the sleeves) at a distance, and (b) they would cost a lot more due to their hardier construction.

I personally don't mind wearing an oversized, game-worn jersey---a size 56 jersey does in fact look like a dress on me---complete with scuffs and all, but I also wear them with pads when I'm at stick practice, which would not be possible with a streetclothes-sized replica.

[q]It would also be nice if Cornell sold a classic jersey, say the one worn by the 1967 or 1970 team. Note Princeton is doing a special run of an old jersey for (how many can there be) Princeton hockey fans for $75. [/q]
Agreed.  Cornell sometime in the past wore the style with the lace-up collar, right?  I seem to recall seeing one of those at one point.

Cheers,
Kyle

[pfibiger]

ivysport.com has "vintage" CU jerseys, including a hockey sweater, which they claim is authentic to 1958

http://ivysport.com/product-product_id/924

all the vintage items:

http://ivysport.com/category-category_id/222

[RichH]

[Q]krose Wrote:

What you want is a high-quality replica: a jersey that would look right on a midget playing an actual game of hockey.  Not clear how big the market for these is, because (a) they don't look substantially better than/different from cheap replicas (okay, okay... with the right coloring on the sleeves) at a distance, and (b) they would cost a lot more due to their hardier construction.
[/Q]
Personally, I think the Koronis replicas that they sell at the Campus store and various online vendors are very good quality.  They can be purchased everywhere from Youth Small to Adult XXL.  

http://www.koronisjerseys.com/cornell.html is just one place online you can buy them from.

Certainly better quality than the only replicas available in 1995.  The jersey I wore senior year was this thin, shiny material with silkscreened letters that looked pink because the red color bled through the letters.


[Q][Q2]It would also be nice if Cornell sold a classic jersey, say the one worn by the 1967 or 1970 team. Note Princeton is doing a special run of an old jersey for (how many can there be) Princeton hockey fans for $75. [/Q]
Agreed.  Cornell sometime in the past wore the style with the lace-up collar, right?  I seem to recall seeing one of those at one point.[/q]

http://ivysport.com/product-product_id/924

I saw someone wearing one of these standing above Section G for the Colgate game.  As the description states, it's a 1958 style.

[billhoward]

[Q]Cornell sometime in the past wore the style with the lace-up collar, right?  I seem to recall seeing one of those at one point.[/q] You're perhaps thinking of team pictures where the second line of type after the "Cornell" part said "NCAA Champion" or "NCAA Runner-Up." Thus the lace-up jerseys may have some sentimental interest to old guard hockey fans who like insanely great Cornell hockey teams.

See photo from history section of 2003-04  hockey press guide (this section of 2005 guide wasn't there moments ago): http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/corn/sports/m-hockey/auto_pdf/MIH67-82.pdf

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]RichH Wrote:

Certainly better quality than the only replicas available in 1995.  The jersey I wore senior year was this thin, shiny material with silkscreened letters that looked pink because the red color bled through the letters.
[/q]

I have one of those that I still wear to games not involving Cornell.  It has sentimental value because Mom bought it for me after the November 1995 Harvard game.

[Rosey]

[Q]RichH Wrote:

Certainly better quality than the only replicas available in 1995.  The jersey I wore senior year was this thin, shiny material with silkscreened letters that looked pink because the red color bled through the letters.[/q]
Silkscreened?  If they're from the same era as my old replica (which is also circa 1995---label says "Athletic Knit"---now hanging in my front window), they are sewn on, but are very thin fabric so they look light pink.  It is of the "air conditioned" variety (loose mesh, like some athletic shorts you can buy).

Cheers,
Kyle