2005-06 Schedule

[Will]

[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:

 Please excuse the stupid question, but isn't RIT D-III??  Did they just move up this year?  Moving up next year?[/q]

RIT hockey is moving up to D-I starting next year.  They will be a part of Atlantic Hockey.  http://www.uscho.com/news/2004/12/14_009415.php

[calgARI '07]

To elaborate on what Will said, RIT will be an Independent DI next season and in Atlantic Hockey in 05-06.

[dadeo]

yea - it doesnt look like our SOS is going to be going in the right direction.
No No.1 seeds for us

[Will]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 To elaborate on what Will said, RIT will be an Independent DI next season and in Atlantic Hockey in 05-06.[/q]

To correct Ari's elaboration, RIT will be D-I independent next year and a part of Atlantic Hockey in 2006-07, actually.

[calgARI '07]

[Q]dadeo Wrote:

 yea - it doesnt look like our SOS is going to be going in the right direction.
No No.1 seeds for us
[/q]

I'm not a PWR wiz, but Cornell's SOS isn't why they weren't a #1 seed, but because they didn't do all that well in those games.  More favorable results with MSU and/or BC would have yielded a #1 I think.

[jeh25]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 [Q2]dadeo Wrote:

 yea - it doesnt look like our SOS is going to be going in the right direction.
No No.1 seeds for us
[/Q]
I'm not a PWR wiz, but Cornell's SOS isn't why they weren't a #1 seed, but because they didn't do all that well in those games.  More favorable results with MSU and/or BC would have yielded a #1 I think.[/q]

Indeed. The lose and tie to MSU and loss to BC hurt far more than SOS.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,61099,61099#msg-61099

[KeithK]

[q]More favorable results with MSU and/or BC would have yielded a #1 I think.[/q]Or a Colgate win against Army... Or a Brown win against Princeton... or any other really minor things that would've made Brown a TUC.  We were really only a hair behind Minnesota - we won the RPI handily and lost the TUC comparison by a very small amount.

[CowbellGuy]

The weak SOS meant all our eggs were in one basket. Again, next year, if we don't do well in the 3 or 4 games against good OOC teams, we'll be hosed again. Look at the team ahead of us. They lost 10 games, but because of their SOS they're a #1 seed. Plus, opening the season with 2 of those games is a double-whammy.

[jeh25]

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 [Q2]More favorable results with MSU and/or BC would have yielded a #1 I think.[/Q]
Or a Colgate win against Army... Or a Brown win against Princeton... or any other really minor things that would've made Brown a TUC.  We were really only a hair behind Minnesota - we won the RPI handily and lost the TUC comparison by a very small amount.[/q]

True enough. But we couldn't "just win" in those cases, whereas we controlled our destiny in the MSU and BC games. Thus, removing the RPI cliff in the TUC comparison would certainly have helped, since Brown would have counted for something.

[RatushnyFan]

While MSU and the holiday tourney are nice, I wish we could get some OOC games better than RIT and Niagara on the schedule.  Blah!!  Those games do nothing to get us ready for the NCAA's, putting aside whether it's good/bad from a PWR perspective.  

[KeithK]

[Q]True enough. But we couldn't "just win" in those cases, whereas we controlled our destiny in the MSU and BC games. Thus, removing the RPI cliff in the TUC comparison would certainly have helped, since Brown would have counted for something.[/q]Yes.  I wasn't just whining here (though I suppose it sounds like it).  My point is that we were extremely close to a #1 seed anyway, even with the MSU and BC losses and the overall low SoS.  The margin for error is small but it can certainly be overcome.

FWIW - Niagara is quite a bit stronger than Army and Sacred Heart.  Then again, RIT is likely to be near the bottom in RPI and Quinnipiac is a step down from Vermont.

[cbuckser]

The RIT game might have no impact on Cornell's RPI.  If RIT schedules fewer than 20 games against Division I opponents, it would be ineligible for the NCAA tournament and teams' games against it would not count in their RPIs.

[nyc94]

[Q]KeithK Wrote:
My point is that we were extremely close to a #1 seed anyway, even with the MSU and BC losses and the overall low SoS.  The margin for error is small but it can certainly be overcome. [/q]

Looking at the '02-'03 PWR, we beat Colorado College and Minnesota 2-1.  We lost the common opponent category in each case and won TUC and RPI as we had the highest RPI at the end of the league tournaments.  This year we tied the common opponent category with Denver and Colorado College and lost to Minnesota.  In each case we had only one opponent in common.  While we would have had the top RPI (and the same record as '02-'03, 28-4-1) with two fewer ties and two more wins, an alternative to winning nearly every game would be to get more comparisons against the WCHA.  

[jeh25]

[Q]nyc94 Wrote:

 an alternative to winning nearly every game would be to get more comparisons against the WCHA.  [/q]

hence tUMD in Florida?

[nyc94]

[Q]jeh25 Wrote:
hence tUMD in Florida?[/q]

Well, that's one - assuming we actually get to play them.