Questions for the Coach on ECACHL website

[atb9]

[Q]There must be an architect on the forum who has a better estimate of the per seat cost of raising the roof. [/Q]

Well, I can tell you this:  Eminem's Encore CD will run you about $15.   :-P

[paulspen]

Athletics campaign is officially over, though there are some remaining funding opportunities. Lynah renovation was never part of that campaign.

Roof will not be raised.

[Townie]

Paulspen:  Are you suggesting the rumours are only rumours?

[paulspen]

Rumors are always rumors until they've been officially announced.

That said, the ROOF will not be raised, even when the money is.
 
::innocent::

[billhoward]

[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:

 [Q2]billhoward Wrote:

 Richie Moran in his mid-1070s glory years arranged a HS lacrosse tournament here on Schoellkopf Field (back when artificial turn was a novelty outside Nebraska and pro stadiums) and by incredible coincidence one of the invitees was Sewanhaka HS and by further incredible coincidence its top player was Eamon McEneaney, who after seeing the facilities, turned down a slew of scholarship offers and enrolled at Cornell.



[/Q]
Maybe so, but we almost must consider that today's youth may be impressed and influenced by factors other than those were back in the 11th century.[/q]
Sorry if the point meant to be obvious, wasn't: Great facilities impress prospective students. That's a universal recruiting tool (as are female students in tank tops cheering at the games). In 1973, when most schools played lacrosse on a grass soccer field so they wouldn't mess up the varsity football field, that new Polyturf mat was the bee's knees. Obviously not today when even high schools have Astroturf. Back in that era, albeit not so far back that McCartney was still with that band before Wings, Moran did what some other posters here suggested might help Cornell hockey recruiting:

You can see what Friedman Hall has done for the wrestling team. (And by the way, it's about time Cornell had a building with that didn't sound like Rockefeller, Taylor, Barton, Dickson, White, Donlon Hall -- we've got enough clenched teeth WASP name buildings. Well, okay, we do have Schoellkopf.)

So better facilities might impress Cornell recruits. And what was cool 30 years ago, for instance replacing the black mat in the Cornell locker room with a red (gad, was it shag?) rug was progress. And then putting in a weight room. But it is time to move on. BU has built two whole arenas since Lynah went up.

[Pete Godenschwager]

[Q]BU has built two whole arenas since Lynah went up. [/Q]

BU even has a 3(4?) page ad in last weeks Sports Illustrated for the new arena with info on how to get tickets.  I found it odd to have an ad like that in a national magazine, but put in the context of recruiting it makes sense.  Every young hockey player in the country reading SI will look at it and drool.

[billhoward]

That was also in the context of BU promoting itself and perhaps looking for funding. I don't know if it ran nationally or regionally - you can buy only some parts of the country in a national magazine.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]billhoward Wrote: You can see what Friedman Hall has done for the wrestling team.[/q]Well, some might say that the excellent coaches and recruits built the program, and then they were rewarded. You seem to forget that Cornell has a long wrestling tradition. Yes, they have been up and down, but an excellent program for many decades.

[puff]

build in the ag quad?
why don't they also put a building in the middle of the arts quad too.
A parking lot on the slope would be pretty cool as well, wait, they did do that

I go by the west campus dorms everyday. They're alright, nothing special, but they are an improvement over some blunders such as the Uris Hall of Rust. The only problem is they dont' exactly mesh well with the older buildings.

[ninian '72]

Are they an improvement over U Halls --  the so-called temporary dorms that are now about 50 years old? They didn't particularly harmonize with the Baker complex either.

[puff]

Much from the outside in my opinion. I'll admit i havn't been in them, but after living a year in '26, it wouldn't have taken much besides common sense to improve there as well. But then what does a natural resource major know about building design ::screwy::

[nyc94]

[Q]puff Wrote:
build in the ag quad?
[/q]

I view that location as being on the quad as opposed to in the quad.  But as an engineer the only time I spent on the Ag quad was wandering around trying to find calculus prelims.  Other people might be more attached to the current layout.  And as an engineer I tend to think of quads as perfect rectangles thus building between Kennedy and Plant Science seems perfectly logical - or at least more logical than building on the athletic fields.

[Q]ninian '72:
Are they an improvement over U Halls -- the so-called temporary dorms that are now about 50 years old? They didn't particularly harmonize with the Baker complex either.[/q]

I think they are far from an improvement - at least on the outside as I haven't been inside.  I'm not an architect or planner but I don't think buildings have to look alike to harmonize.  The U-Halls may not look as old as the Baker dorms but they certainly aren't modernist.  The brick is a nice contrast to the stone of the Baker dorms.  And the U-Halls are relatively small and sat in their own cluster so they didn't compete visually.  If you are approaching West Campus from the Slope there is a symmetry coming through the War Memorial: two towers, three U-Halls on either side of the former Dust Bowl.  About the only thing I didn't like about West Campus was Noyes Center but it was placed in a location that encouraged pedestrian traffic through the open area of West Campus.  When you are in that area it felt like you were in the center of something more than just a collection of buildings.  As for the new buildings, the architect is clearly trying to mimic the Baker dorms but having seen Alice Cook House the materials and the size don't work.  Looking at the "artist's rendering" http://www.campuslife.cornell.edu/frames/?url=ri.campuslife.cornell.edu it doesn't seem like they are encouraging foot traffic, especially north-south (left-right in the drawing).  I guess that goes against the nature of the residential college system: you are supposed to eat, sleep, and study in one place.  Also, in the drawing you can see there are plantings on the roof of the dining areas.  In the drawing it makes it look like there is more open space than there really is.  From the ground it looks like there are weeds sprouting from brand new buildings.

I lived in Sperry in 1990-1991 so the U-Halls had all been renovated and I missed the dust bowl days.  I know they say they were meant to be temporary but the construction felt much more solid than that of many newer buildings.

[ninian '72]

Thanks for these observations.  Looking at the site rendering again, I think you're right about the impact of the layout.  The old West layout  -- with the dustbowl and Noyes -- did create common spaces that created a feel of community.  The axes of the new West all lead toward the West Campus Lawn, but what is that?  I don't see any evidence of grading in the renderings, so I expect it will all slope towards Stewart?  And for what can tomorrow's students use that space?  Doesn't seem well suited to touch football, soccer, frisbee the way the old dustbowl was.  Am I missing something here, or does West seem less livable than before?

I am grateful for one feature of the plan: The architect did not choose to insert a building next to McFaddin to create a balancing structure for Lyon.  I think this would not have worked, unless the architect chose a style more compatible with the Gothics than was in fact used.

[Brian]

Apparently they have decided on an architectural firm although it hasn't been announced publicly that I am aware of.