Mike Stachurski

Bengy · August 11, 2004, 10:45:33 PM

no need to pursue this highly anger-filled thread.... i was just asking who this guy was...no need to fight....
case closed...

Facetimer · August 12, 2004, 09:58:29 AM

Way to provoke a fight for no reason Bengy. You have ruined what otherwise is the most friendly internet college hockey chat site I know. I thought Canadians were supposed to be peaceful ::screwy::

ugarte · August 12, 2004, 10:34:04 AM

[Q]Facetimer Wrote:

Way to provoke a fight for no reason Bengy. You have ruined what otherwise is the most friendly internet college hockey chat site I know. I thought Canadians were supposed to be peaceful
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 08/12/04 09:59AM by Facetimer.[/q] ::laugh:: This is why I don't want Facetimer's posts to become blah blah blah.

Facetimer · August 12, 2004, 04:05:43 PM

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Bengy · August 12, 2004, 06:17:36 PM

CASE CLOSED !!!!!!!

billhoward · August 13, 2004, 06:03:32 PM

Wow! Nearly a thousand hits on somebody who was up for a cup of coffee.

So we know where Mike Stachurski isn't (playing for Cornell). But where is he? Did he unmatriculate? Turn pro? Get a job modeling? (His Cornell PR photo looked kind of California surfer-ish.) Does he have some unrealized dream of playing still in Lynah (for the home team)?

If Stachurski couldn't catch on at Cornell yet he was sure he was headed to pros, that's one more story about a guy who wasn't about to be stopped from reaching for the stars just because others didn't believe in him as much as Mike believed in himself.

I mean, look at William Hung and his Inspiration CD. Others said he couldn't sing, he was too short, he couldn't act and yet - and yet - ...

CU Fan · August 13, 2004, 08:11:47 PM

He still goes to Cornell and is playing for the club team.

Avash · August 15, 2004, 01:05:44 AM

[Q]CU Fan Wrote:

He still goes to Cornell and is playing for the club team.[/q]

I know it definitely hasn't happened recently, but has a player from the club team ever moved up to the varsity? I'm guessing that the answer is no, but just wondering....

jtwcornell91 · August 15, 2004, 07:01:54 AM

[Q]Avash '05 Wrote:
I know it definitely hasn't happened recently, but has a player from the club team ever moved up to the varsity? I'm guessing that the answer is no, but just wondering....
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Wasn't emergency goalie Nathan Hicks from the club team. He never actually got any ice time, although I think he dressed for a few games.

billhoward · August 15, 2004, 02:03:02 PM

Wasn't Hicks a real player from a Michigan junior or HS team before coming to Cornell? some records show him on the 1996-97 roster just not with any playing minutes. Whether recruited or not, it wasn't as if Schafer put pads on the chubbiest undergrad he could find, explained to stand up on skates, and wedged him between the pipes.

Brian Cropper in 1970 was backed up I believe by by Bob Rule the lacrosse goalie. I don't know if Rule had previous hockey experience.

cbuckser · August 15, 2004, 03:03:16 PM

[Q]Avash '05 Wrote:

I know it definitely hasn't happened recently, but has a player from the club team ever moved up to the varsity? I'm guessing that the answer is no, but just wondering....
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Until 1993 or 1994, Cornell used to have a junior varsity team. Players on the varsity roster who were routinely healthy scratches would play in JV games. In addition, JV players not on the varsity roster one season would sometimes earn a spot on the varsity roster in a future season.

The jump from club team to varsity has been much rarer, except for a couple of third-string goaltenders. However, Damian Rocke, a varsity soccer and club hockey player, had the chance to dress and play forward for one game in the 1996-97 season, at a time when the team was ravaged with injuries. Rocke got a major and gfame misconduct for hitting from behind on what I recall was his second shift of the game.

CU Fan · August 15, 2004, 03:09:20 PM

All the players on the Cornell club team played hockey before coming to Cornell.

Scott Kominkiewicz · August 15, 2004, 11:59:46 PM

[Q]cbuckser Wrote:

Until 1993 or 1994, Cornell used to have a junior varsity team. [/q]

Up until 1980, Cornell used to have JV baseball as well. As many know, the Ivies abandoned Freshmen football in the 90's, and the football JV schedule is now just a few games against prep schools. Is this a trend in other sports for sub-varsity squads? What about crew? What about other schools?

Since athletics can be an important aspect in a young adult's education, I think it's sad that this happens since fewer kids get to play a sport they love. Just my 2 cents.

CU Fan · August 16, 2004, 03:34:53 AM

Cornell has a JV Football team as well as the lightweight team??

billhoward · August 16, 2004, 08:39:50 AM

1) Hot damn! In ten days, 1000-plus hits on a topic of modest conseqentiality. We really are eager for the hockey season to start.

2) There has been a shift in college sports post-Vietnam. Through the mid-1970s in the Ivies, through about 1970 in the major sports world, freshman weren't eligible for varsity play, and since you had some real studs playing freshman hockey or soccer or lacrosse (say, Ken Dryden or Mike French, etcetera), the freshman team was the subject of some discussion and interest and attendance. ("If Julius Erving has been eligible as a freshman, UMass would have gotten as far as the NCAA round of ...") Now you pretty much have to claw your way onto the varsity as a freshman, if only as a reserve, which puts pressure on students to play more in high school. [Interesting thought: Freshmen and others on academic probation in the '60s ineligible to march against the war or cut classes at year's end.]

My memory is vague here, but as freshman-eligibility kicked in, the Ivies tried out both freshman and JV teams, shifted to JV teams quickly (or they perhaps went straight to JV), and as you've seen the JV squads kind of die out.

The one nice thing the Ivies do is have a lightweight or sprint football team for good HS players who aren't physical hulks. Would that there was also a basketball team where the playing height of the team must be under 30 feet tall (eg, you could play Yao Ming and four jockeys).

The result is the varsity level of the sport is everything. It means there are fewer, and fewer meaningful, playing experiences for student athletes, for guys (and women) who might be good enough to make a freshman team and play for a year before the talent pyramid overtakes them.

So maybe what happens if you're a middling talent athlete with good SATs, you look at a D-III school where you've got a better chance to play in your sport. I don't think anybody can complain about the quality of education at Amherst or Bowdoin.