Schafer

[MNetravali]

Mike Schafer would NEVER leave Cornell to go to Harvard.  Nobody leaves their Alma Mater to go to their top rival (and a lesser program).  The rumor is complete nonsense.

[Cornell Fan]

Yea, everybody already knew that.

[Greg Berge]

[q]Nobody leaves their Alma Mater to go to their top rival (and a lesser program). [/q]

I can't think of one, but I'm betting that within 48 hours somebody will.  I've got faith in this group.

[Rosey]

At least at Harvard, he'll have the crowd he's been working hard to get.

ZING! ::wow::

Kyle

[KeithK]

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 [Q2]Nobody leaves their Alma Mater to go to their top rival (and a lesser program). [/Q]
I can't think of one, but I'm betting that within 48 hours somebody will.  I've got faith in this group.[/q]

Rick Comley, current head coach of Michigan State, graduated from Lake Superior in '72.  He went on to coach LSSU for three seasons from '74 to '76 before moving on to a 26 year run at Northern Michigan and the last three at MSU.  This isn't a case of arch rivals (NMU and Michigan Tech are arch rivals, at least now), but it's the closest I could find quickly.

It's really amazing how many DI head coaches work for their Alma Maters.  I didn't count, but it's a fairly high percentage.

[cornelldavy]

It's not hockey, but it does involve one of the most legendary coaching rivalries of all time...Bo Schembechler was a grad student at Ohio State (undergrad at Miami - OH), and was even a graduate assistant coach under Woody Hayes before leaving to eventually become head coach at Ohio State's arch rival, Michigan.

[RichH]

From http://www.ahcahockey.com/ask/20022003/102302.html

[q]Taylor, a 1963 Harvard graduate, spent seven years as an assistant at his alma mater before becoming Yale’s 10th head coach. He captained the 1963 Crimson team that won the Ivy League and the ECAC championships, and tallied 46 goals and 33 assists for 79 career points in 68 games. Taylor, the recipient of the Angier Trophy for most improved Harvard player his junior season, made the U.S. national team in 1965 and 1967. [/q]

Tim Taylor has been Yale's head coach since the '76-'77 season, and is now the winningest coach in Yale history.

Don't ask who he beat to gain the record: http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=14603

[Greg]

[Q]krose Wrote:

 At least at Harvard, he'll have the crowd he's been working hard to get.

ZING!

Kyle
[/q]

Now, now...  Schafer has said many times he wants a loud, aggressive, intimidating, supportive crowd.  He just doesn't want to hear "suck," "fuck," or "asshole" every fifteen seconds, and neither do a lot of us.  Some fear that little Erica will be corrupted.  Whatever.  The rest of us just think it's boring and that a Cornell crowd ought to be able to come up with something better.

[Tom Pasniewski 98]

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

It's really amazing how many DI head coaches work for their Alma Maters.  I didn't count, but it's a fairly high percentage.[/q]

Actually the percentages are rather low.  Here's a percentage breakdown by conference of teams coached by an alumnus of that school ranked from greatest to lowest

CCHA:  7/12 - 58%
WCHA: 5/10 - 50%
HE:       3/9 - 33%
AH:       3/9 - 33%
CHA:     1/6 - 17%
ECAC:   2/12 - 17%

Overall:  21/58 - 36%

Cornell is one of about five schools that have multiple alums coaching DI teams.  Bowling Green has produced the most DI head coaches

[ninian '72]

[Q]cornelldavy Wrote:

 It's not hockey, but it does involve one of the most legendary coaching rivalries of all time...Bo Schembechler was a grad student at Ohio State (undergrad at Miami - OH), and was even a graduate assistant coach under Woody Hayes before leaving to eventually become head coach at Ohio State's arch rival, Michigan.[/q]

The Ohio State connection was the reason Bo was hired at Michigan.  After Ohio State beat Michigan 50-14 in 1967, a reporter asked Woody why he had gone for 2 after scoring their final touchdown.  His response was, "Because I couldn't go for 3."  Although the Michigan coach - Bump Elliott - was a popular former Michigan All-American, the folks at Michigan had had enough and decided to find a head coach who understood Woody well enough to beat him.  Bo took care of that the next fall.  When Bo decided to leave Ohio State for the head coaching job at his alma mater Miami - OH, Woody told him that he had been grooming him to be his eventual successor at Ohio State and that Bo would be giving all that up, which explains a lot of the personal vitriol Woody felt toward Bo when they faced each other later in their careers.

[ursusminor]

[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:

 [Q2]KeithK Wrote:

It's really amazing how many DI head coaches work for their Alma Maters.  I didn't count, but it's a fairly high percentage.[/Q]
Actually the percentages are rather low.  Here's a percentage breakdown by conference of teams coached by an alumnus of that school ranked from greatest to lowest

CCHA:  7/12 - 58%
WCHA: 5/10 - 50%
HE:       3/9 - 33%
AH:       3/9 - 33%
CHA:     1/6 - 17%
ECAC:   2/12 - 17%

Overall:  21/58 - 36%

Cornell is one of about five schools that have multiple alums coaching DI teams.  Bowling Green has produced the most DI head coaches



[/q]
Actually, that is a pretty high percentage since randomness would predict that only one coach would be coaching at his alma mater.  :-)  I am  sure that 21/58 would easily pass any reasonable significance test for there being a correlation between alma mater and team coached.

[Facetimer]

If Schafer wanted to go to Harvard I would pack his bags and drive him. We couldn't get any more lucky.

[Rosey]

[Q]Facetimer Wrote:

 If Schafer wanted to go to Harvard I would pack his bags and drive him. We couldn't get any more lucky.[/q]
LOL... so I don't go nearly this far, since I think Schafer is actually a very good coach.  I just take issue with his zeal in trying to stamp out language and behavior he doesn't like.  Hockey is a low-class sport: IMO, just deal with it and let the fans be fans.

Cheers,
Kyle

::banana::

[Cornell fan]

Hockey is a low-class sport? I really don't think that could be further from the truth. With the exception of maybe polo, croquet, and tennis, whats more highclass than hockey?

[billhoward]

[Q]Cornell fan Wrote:

 Hockey is a low-class sport? I really don't think that could be further from the truth. With the exception of maybe polo, croquet, and tennis, whats more highclass than hockey?[/q]

Hockey fans represent a bi-modal distribution. In addition to those whose lips move when presented with tough reading passages such as "Bud ... Bud Lite," there is also an upscale demographic. I thought I recalled seeing demographing numbers saying the upper half of hockey fans are a fairly high-income group, more so (can this be so?) than even basketball.

Within colleges, lacrosse may be the highest income-demographic sport.