LeNeveu's GAA record in jeopardy?

Josh '99 · March 31, 2004, 04:40:08 PM

Rickey says nobody gonna break Rickey's records.

RichH · March 31, 2004, 04:42:11 PM

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:
Rickey says nobody gonna break Rickey's records. [/Q]
Rickey's gonna keep playing so nobody can catch up to Rickey.

billhoward · March 31, 2004, 04:46:43 PM

If the ban on steroids - the steroids that no MLB slugger seems to admit to using - takes hold, a repeat of 75 home runs could take a long time.

As for batting average, Tony Gwynn got to what, .394 circa 1994, but that still makes it sixty-plus years no one has hit .400.

A lot of the records are broken because there are more games played (not that Roger Maris deserved an asterisk next to his record). Marinaro would have been the first player to run for 2000 yards in a single season and over 6,000 yards rushing career (7,000?) if he'd played 10 games for each of four years, not nine games for three. When he averaged 210 yards a game senior year, wasn't the old record 174 by OJ Simpson. Critics say Ed got his in the Ivy League, but I still recall the quote in Sports Illustrated about his numbers: "That'd be a lot of yards even against tackling dummies."

There ought to be records for how much you break old records by.

CUlater 89 · March 31, 2004, 05:17:32 PM

A pet peeve of mine is references here and in the media to .400 being a record that will/will not be broken. "Batting .400" is not a record; "the highest batting average in a season" is a record.

Josh '99 · March 31, 2004, 06:13:24 PM

[Q]CUlater 89 Wrote:

A pet peeve of mine is references here and in the media to .400 being a record that will/will not be broken. "Batting .400" is not a record; "the highest batting average in a season" is a record. [/Q]That said, I think it's safe to say that that .440 (pre-1900, Hugh Duffy in 1894) and .424 (post-1900, Rogers Hornsby, 1924) are both records that also won't be broken.

ugarte · March 31, 2004, 06:34:54 PM

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

Mea culpa. Yeah, even I could probably triple jump 29 feet. [/Q]Then you're in much better shape than I am.

Chris 02 · March 31, 2004, 07:05:07 PM

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

billhoward Wrote:

Mea culpa. Yeah, even I could probably triple jump 29 feet. Then you're in much better shape than I am.

The artist formerly known as big red apple [/Q]

Yeah I ran track and cross country at Cornell, but did some triple jumping in high school. I think I made it up to about 36 feet. Obviously long distance running was more my forte. Scary to think that one guy could do one jump about as far as I could do three.

billhoward · March 31, 2004, 08:20:15 PM

[Q]CUlater 89 Wrote:

A pet peeve of mine is references here and in the media to .400 being a record that will/will not be broken. "Batting .400" is not a record; "the highest batting average in a season" is a record. [/Q]

Sports historians keep records of events that are memorable because they involve round numbers: first four-minute mile, first 18-foot pole vault (okay, not exactly round), eventually the six-meter pole vault. Wilt Chamberlain blessed both sides of the argument by scoring a nice round 100 points. If the record book didn't list the last time someone hit .400, I wouldn't think much of the record book.

An offense that gets me is calling a record a new record. All records when set are new records, although there are old or former records. It's just that nitwit TV announcers haven't consulted Strunk & White and love to pad out their thoughts [used loosely]. This is not the same as a retronym: Once you have cordless drills, it's okay to describe the opposite as corded drills. Or as William Safire once sniffed, "Now you have to say English language radio." Hmm, nothing like putting your own politics into On Language.

You can't give 110 percent, no matter what the coach says. And etcetera.

And "full" gets overused, as in the racetrack is a full 2.5 miles long.

Whenever the announcer says literally, he probably means figuratively.

Pete Godenschwager · March 31, 2004, 08:41:53 PM

[Q]Wilt Chamberlain blessed both sides of the argument by scoring a nice round 100 points[/Q]

Don't forget the 20,000 scores off the court ::twitch::

Tom Pasniewski 98 · April 01, 2004, 07:38:40 AM

David Leneveu and Wilt Chamberlain in the same thread. Uh, wow.

Ted will hit .400 again some day when he's defrosted in 2200. :-}

Now that will require an asterisk.

sdellman · April 02, 2004, 03:41:30 PM

Ari, is this some more of your very knowledgeable and subjective views as posted on hockeysfuture forum? I think you are a little too passionate and maybe even a little too personal with some of your views.

David McKee - Up and down freshmen year. He was brutal in the beginning and brutal in the playoffs. He was outstanding the rest of the season. In Cornell's unconditional strong defensive scheme, he will put up outstanding numbers every year he is at Cornell. He will definitely get signed after he graduates. I believe he is just a good as the very overrated David LeNeveu who also dropped the ball in the playoffs when he was at Cornell. A bucket would have done as well between the pipes for Cornell's extremely talented team last year.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=64017

ugarte · April 02, 2004, 03:55:44 PM

[Q]sdellman Wrote:

Ari, is this some more of your very knowledgeable and subjective views as posted on hockeysfuture forum? I think you are a little too passionate and maybe even a little too personal with some of your views.

David McKee - Up and down freshmen year. He was brutal in the beginning and brutal in the playoffs. He was outstanding the rest of the season. In Cornell's unconditional strong defensive scheme, he will put up outstanding numbers every year he is at Cornell. He will definitely get signed after he graduates. I believe he is just a good as the very overrated David LeNeveu who also dropped the ball in the playoffs when he was at Cornell. A bucket would have done as well between the pipes for Cornell's extremely talented team last year.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=64017[/Q]I don't mind the passion or the personal - I just can't believe how often I disagree with you.

I like David McKee. I saw about a half-dozen games this year. That is more than enough to know that he isn't nearly the goaltender that LeNeveu is.

And what's up with the hatin' on Moulson?

DisplacedCornellian · April 02, 2004, 04:14:05 PM

Is Ari watching the same team the rest of us are??

jeh25 · April 03, 2004, 04:25:13 PM

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Which kind of begs the question as to what existing records (sports) are least likely to fall? Every time or distance record gets beaten. I think my money is on the .400 batting average staying inviolate. [/q]

Doesn't OJ still hold the record for the 440 hurdles or something?

Ack · April 03, 2004, 09:14:30 PM

How about Joltin' Joe and his 56 consecutive games with at least one hit back in 1941?

(he actually hit 61 in 1933 while on the San Francisco Seals in the Pacific Coast League)

Or, Tom Seaver's 98.84% vote in 1992 (recent though) to get into the Hall of Fame...beats Yogi Berra, Jackie Robinson, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, etc.

Joe Dimaggio's hit streak, that seems pretty unattainable.