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Cowbell Guy wrote:

min '97 wrote:

i say that give the ivy title a name and a piece of hardware and every team will (or begin to) find it relevant!

Umm... ermmm... Kinda like this one? ::shifty::

Nice pic. Who is the butcher that scratched in Cornell in 2002? (Or does it look that way because it was "fresh" at the time of the etching?)

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John E Hayes '98 '00 wrote:

bigredapple wrote:
 Last year, yes; this year, probably not.  The ECAC is likely to join the scrub conferences with only a single NCAA representative.

Unless Brown wins out, only to be upset by Cornell in the the championship game, no?

While that is a scenario I would be comfortable with B-], is Cornell even the team that would give Brown the best shot for an at-large NCAA bid as ECAC runner-up?



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[CowbellGuy]

This was from last season's hockey celebration thing after it was over, and that was from 2002, so it was roughly as fresh as most of the stuff in my fridge.

[Chris \'03]

[Q]is Cornell even the team that would give Brown the best shot for an at-large NCAA bid as ECAC runner-up?[/Q]

The besst shot would probably be losing to a non-TUC in the semis, then beating Colgate in the Consolation.
In fact, Colgate has the best pairwise in the conference now, right? So wouldn't the Raiders really be the team to look to as an at large hope?

No matter who it is, I think if a Brown or Colgate is to make it at large and not win the ECAC, they'd have to do it like Colgate did in 2000, lose the semi, win the Consy. That's because their position is so tenuous in the PWR, that they can't afford another TUC loss. A 2nd place ECAC finish gurantees a TUC loss, whether it's Cornell that beats them or Princeton.

[Steve Marciniec \'85]

I agree that Ivy champ and division championship banners are excessive, but to answer your question, the Ducks and their fans (I got the verbal abuse of Broduer going in Game 3) are very proud of coming within one game of the Stanley Cup, in spite of the disappointment of not winning.  Weren't you proud of our run to the Frozen Four last year?  By your logic regarding the Ducks, only NCAA championship banners should hang.  Forget those meaningless ECAC titles. ::rolleyes::

[Steve Marciniec \'85]

No.  Colgate has a decent chance.  And they don't necessarily need to win out until the title game.  They do need some help from opponents of the other bubble teams.

[Keith K \'93]

I disagree that banners for Ivy Championships are excessive.  The Ivy League hockey championship predates every existing league or championship in hockey with the exception of the WCHA.  If the Pentagonal League is included (as it is on the Hobey Baker Trophy), it is the oldest.  This isn't some made up title created to add banners.  It's a fifty year tradition.  It may not be as important as the ECAC title, but it's still an accomplishment worth honoring.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]Mike Ack wrote:

It is a good reminder of an accomplishment - maybe not a productive accomplishment in providing an autobid, but one that says we're better than Brown, Sucks, Dartmouth, Princeton, and Yale on a given year. We are a group of schools, and we want to be the best one out of them.[/Q]Well some would disagree that winning the Ivy title means that team is better. One only has to look at the times a team did that, but lost the ECAC's. Then my thought is, so what to the Ivy title. Much like winning the regular season but losing the playoffs, who cares? I was much happier when we came from number 8 to win it all, than I'd be vice versa.

[Keith K \'93]

[Q]Well some would disagree that winning the Ivy title means that team is better.[/Q]Winning the Ivies means that we were better than the other five squads in a home and home round-robin, which is probably the best format for deciding who is the best team.  So it does mean something.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]Winning the Ivies means that we were better than the other five squads in a home and home round-robin, which is probably the best format for deciding who is the best team. So it does mean something.[/Q]And as they used to say, "that and a dime will get you a cup of coffee".:-D

[min]

good to know! totally didn't realize that they passed out plaques for ivy titles, aka hockey baker trophies!

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Jim Hyla '67 wrote:

[Q]Winning the Ivies means that we were better than the other five squads in a home and home round-robin, which is probably the best format for deciding who is the best team. So it does mean something.[/Q]And as they used to say, "that and a dime will get you a cup of coffee".:-D

To quote Luke Skywalker, "I care."  Winning the Ivy title is certainly better than NOT winning the Ivy title.  It matters, even if it doesn't result in a tourney bid.  When you think about it, winning the NCAA title and a dime will get you that same cup of coffee.

I remember posts where people would chart the "New York" title (Cornell, 'Gate, Clarkson, SLU, RPI, Union) - I cared (though not much) about that also.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]big red apple wrote:

When you think about it, winning the NCAA title and a dime will get you that same cup of coffee.[/Q]Yeah, but it tastes so much sweeter. Sort of like espresso vs regular.:-D

[Ack]

Coffee bad (it'll stain the ice)...Cornell winning hockey banners good (those stains are easier to clean). But we should still try to get all these proverbial cups of coffee anyway.

[Section A]

The front page of cornelldailysun.com has a poll that asks, How far will the men's hockey team go this season?

Among the options are "ECAC Champions" and "NCAA Tournament"

 ::screwy::