2/6: Cornell 4 Dartmouth 2. Final.

Started by Greg Berge, February 06, 2004, 06:52:13 PM

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Dart~Ben

Ugly game to watch, as the two absolutely horrendous turnovers in Dartmouth's own zone (I believe both by freshmen D) was the difference in the game. Once is forgiveable, twice is carelessness. And the fact that Dartmouth played like a bunch of goons isn't helping matters. Though, none of Cornell's injuries came on goon-like plays.

Cook early on was hurt on a clean but hard hit on the endboards. If Schafer was pissed about that one, he shouldn't have been. It wasn't dirty.

Likewise, the one guy who got kicked lost an edge or something as the Dartmouth guy was lining him up, fell down and was spinning on the ice, and the Dartmouth guy had nowhere to go. Definitely wasn't malicious, just bad luck that his head was turning toward the Dartmouth player as he made contact, but it couldn't have been avoided either.

McKee I have no idea what happened. Dartmouth had about a 5-shot flurry on the PP and there was about a 6 player scrum in front of the net while the play was going on. All of a sudden McKee goes down and starts rolling, the ref blows the whistle though Dartmouth has the puck and is facing an empty net, and the crowd was ticked off. I thought he was holding his head, but I suppose it could've been the leg.

But Guimond's hit from behind was blatent and dangerous, and the major/game misconduct was far more appropriate than the one last weekend against Union. I was just ticked that the ref (Kotyra) was looking right at it and didn't call it, but the linesman did. I thought linesmen were only supposed to call stuff the ref doesn't see.

Otherwise Kotyra let alot of stuff go. A few slashes by Dartmouth, one pretty blatent high stick by Cornell, at least he was even for the most part. Dartmouth probably benefited given that they haven't been the cleanest team the last 4-5 periods of play going back to the second half of the Union game.

And while Cornell may not be "clutch and grab", they are "get it to the boards and scrum for 30 seconds" - effective, legal, but about as fun to watch as the neutral zone trap. And really it didn't generate much offense for em. 2 PPG's and 2 breakaway goals off horrendus turnovers, they didn't generate much off their set offense.

Oh, and the last play that you never really got a good description of. Cornell shot from the right circle beat Yacey either 5-hole or just wide, hit the left post, and came straight out. Kotyra was right there and immediately signaled no goal.

Ben Flickinger
Omaha, NE
Dartmouth College

Dart~Ben

goto
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~mhockey/dmh0304/Index0304.html
and scroll down to Cornell
the quicktime video shows the hit on Cook right at the begining and the injury to McKee at the end. I still can't tell what happened to McKee even after seeing it (not the greatest quality).

Ben Flickinger
Omaha, NE
Dartmouth College

Ben Doyle 03

You heard it here first ... Cornell does not "clutch and grab" ... ;-) ::rolleyes:: ;-)

QuoteBen Flickinger wrote:

And while Cornell may not be "clutch and grab", they are "get it to the boards and scrum for 30 seconds" - effective, legal, but about as fun to watch as the neutral zone trap. And really it didn't generate much offense for em. 2 PPG's and 2 breakaway goals off horrendus turnovers, they didn't generate much off their set offense.


As for generating offense ... it's more about wearing the other down w/ physical play. When they're as banged as they are now the system tends not to work as well. BTW, "get it to the boards and scrum for 30 seconds" IS cornell hockey ... we loved that sh*t!

Thanks for the recap Ben :-)



Post Edited (02-07-04 12:32)
Let's GO Red!!!!

chris \'06

from what i can tell mckee was on the right post...the puck moved in between the circles and mckee stayed with it and possibly made a save there...then he loooks like he jumps quickly back across to the right post to save what looks like a wrap around shot or something similar...and then he's down on his back

DeltaOne81

Thanks Ben... the McKee injury definitely seems pretty random, he musta just ended up in an odd position and pulled something. With all out injuries, I'm gonna guess that Schafer plays it safe and puts in Marr tonight... let McKee get to 100%, unless somehow he is already.

To be fair, your description made it sound like McKee went down, the puck popped out to an open guy, and the ref immediately blew the whistle. That clearly wasn't the case :). McKee went down, the puck went to the corner, McKee was writhing around for a good 2 or 3 seconds while Dartmouth brought the puck behind the net and around, just as they began to move out front, the ref blew the whistle. If anything, it was a late whistle, which could only add to the frustration, but there's no way that could be a goal.

That video is very Dartmouth-centered... which is to be expected, I guess. Still I was disappointed that a 'highlights' video only showed 2 of the 6 goals. Age used to post all the goals :-P.

Thanks for the info, maybe we'll see ya in Albany ;).... or the 2nd round.

Bahnstorm

Not making a comparison to eLynah, certainly not knocking this site, Age's photos are far better, but any else think the Dartmouth Hockey site is pretty good? Big Red's official athletic hockey site isn't bad, but you certainly get more content at Dartmouth's.

Sound bites, video highlights updated the morning after a game, and apparently being hosted by the College with them picking up bandwidth charges, that's pretty sweet.
I kind of feel if CU tried something like that someone would get a cease and desist letter or it would cost $10 a month.
Any one know of other really good official college hockey team pages?



Post Edited (02-07-04 12:42)

Dart~Ben

That isn't the official site (anymore - it used to be 2-3 years ago). The official site is your standard OCSN format at http://athletics.dartmouth.edu
But they do link to the "extra" one on the top of the official men's hockey site, so it works out.

And yeah, I guess the fact he waited to blow the whistle after McKee went down until we had a scoring chance is what set the crowd off. Had he blown it while the puck was in the corner it wouldn't have been as bad, but by waiting til the puck was in front, oh well.

Ben Flickinger
Omaha, NE
Dartmouth College

DeltaOne81

I guess he wanted to wait as long as he could to see if McKee got up, and once there was about to be a scoring chance, he blew the whistle. Not necessarily the best move but it's not improper either, just likely to set the crowd off.

chris \'06

ben, did you get a good look at the scrum after the game had ended? the description by adam was a little sketchy, but i guess that happens when you are short a color guy. anyways, all i got was that jessiman gave a slash at the end of the game and abbott jumped in and maybe o'byrne. you got anymore details than that?

Chris 02

The videographer for Dartmouth needs a tripod really badly.  Video quality isn't too bad, but whoever is taking video really needs to hold the camera more steady.

Section A

[Q]anyways, all i got was that jessiman gave a slash at the end of the game and abbott jumped in and maybe o'byrne[/Q]

There were actually some penalties handed out:

COR-6 Jeremy Downs (5-Cross-Checking) 20:00  
COR-7 Mike Iggulden (2-Roughing) 20:00  
DAR-8 Hugh Jessiman (5-Cross-Checking) 20:00  
DAR-9 Sean Offers (2-Roughing) 20:00  



....according to the boxscore: http://www.collegehockeystats.com/0304/boxes/mcordar1.f06

(p.s. has a thread ever gone over 200 posts before?!)



Post Edited (02-07-04 13:54)

Chris 02

[q](p.s. has a thread ever gone over 200 posts before?!)[/q]

I can't verify this, but check out the "Colgate Pep Band" thread from last season.  The final post on it was just about this time last year (Early Feb.)

Section A

[Q]I can't verify this, but check out the "Colgate Pep Band" thread from last season. The final post on it was just about this time last year (Early Feb.)[/Q]


That thread, classic though it was, "only" had 150 posts. I know a couple game threads this season (other than this one) had more, including Cornell at Brown (173 posts) and Cornell vs Ohio State at the Everblades (196).

Bio \'04

The ticket line procedure thread was pretty long. :-)

Section A

[Q]The ticket line procedure thread was pretty long.[/Q]


Good point! That was 204 posts. But then again, so was this until we (okay, I) started talking about thread lengths :-)

I'll stop now....