[OT] Cornell Football Head Coach

[atb9]

Rumors are swirling that we have hired a new football coach that has NFL experience...another offensive minded guy.  If it is true, this is awesome!

http://www.raiders.com/team/coachbio.jsp?id=166



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[Keith K \'93]

Did this guy get fired by the Raiders? ( Considering their season, I wouldn't be surprised).  But if not, why would you go from an offensive coordinator job in the NFL to coach at a low level I-AA school?  He's not even a Cornell grad.  Wierd.

[dss28]

Maybe if he can bring a not-so-wonderful (relatively speaking)  team into the national spotlight, he'll have more credibility as a coach and can salvage his career?



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[Greg Berge]

Maybe, athough I don't know how much NFL owners are going to believe that Ivy experience carries over to the NFL.

[Keith K \'93]

Oh, I didn't notice that Callahan got fired by the Raiders as head coach, which presumably means that his staff is gone as well, even if the web site doesn't show it yet.  Raiders to the Big Red still seems like a huge step down though.  Then again, the way the Raiders played this season...

[dss28]

Even if the team sees a vast improvement due to the coaching?

[jkahn]

Trestman was considered a brilliant offensive coordinator in '02, and not so in '03.  That's the way life in pro sports is.  Perhaps he's ready for a change.
What's the source of the rumors?  I've got a prospective football player I need to call to set up an alumni interview, and I'd love to fill him in if I've got some facts to support the rumor.

[atb9]

A writer for the Daily Sun had an away message up today saying that he tried to call the Raiders to ask them about Trestmans hiring and they called him back saying they wanted to schedule him, the Sun reporter, for an interview with Al Davis.  Apparently they got the message wrong and thought that the Sun reporter was trying to interview for the head coaching job.  When they realized the mistake they refused to comment and told him to contact Cornell athletics.



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[jkahn]

Trestman was the 49ers offensive coordinator under former Cornell coach George Seifert in '95-'96. (11-5 and 12-4).  Perhaps George told him some good things about life in Ithaca.  Hopefully, if he comes, Trestman will have more success here than Seifert did.

[Al DeFlorio]

Greg Berge '85 wrote:

Maybe, athough I don't know how much NFL owners are going to believe that Ivy experience carries over to the NFL.

Didn't seem to help Mangurian much.

I'd much prefer to see us hire someone who's been successful as a college head coach, even if at the Division III level.  Penn's Al Bagnoli had his Union teams in national championship games.  Yale's Jack Siedlecki was very successful at Amherst.  Harvard's Tim Murphy had top teams at I-AA Maine before becoming head coach at Cincinnati.  Mark Whipple (now at UMass) had four good years at Brown after coaching playoff teams at the University of New Haven.  There's a good track record of success following this path.

I'm just not sure a pro assistant will relate well to the Ivy League student-athlete, and I don't know that there've been many, if any, real successes.

[thesportsguy]

Shouldn't believe everything you believe in a cynical columnists away message.  You'll find more flash than fact.  Here's the real deal:

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/8047923p-8983503c.html

of course, keep checking the Daily Sun website.  I hear the sports editors are close to breaking some big news.

[atb9]

::In my best Russian Accent:: For serious?

Message boards excel at speculation and rumor!

I'm excited to read that Trestman did in fact interview for the job!  It's good news that we're not just going after D-III perennial losers...

I contend that Pete Mangurian significantly improved his stock by coming to Cornell.  In 1997 he was an offensive assistant with the Falcons.  When he left Cornell in 2000, he become the Falcons offensive line coach.  After giving up only 36 sacks, the second lowest total in franchise history, and having three 500 yard rushers, Reeves promoted him to offensive coordinator where he worked with Michael Vick who might just become the Michael Jordan of the NFL!  Not too shabby if you ask me...I wonder if he interviewed for the Cornell job too!  ;-)

I'm just waiting for the announcement!  It looks like it could be a really good hire, who ever they end up choosing.

[Al DeFlorio]

Adam Brown wrote:

I contend that Pete Mangurian significantly improved his stock by coming to Cornell.  In 1997 he was an offensive assistant with the Falcons.  When he left Cornell in 2000, he become the Falcons offensive line coach.  

Here's more speculation:

http://pub34.ezboard.com/ffootballscoopfrm1.showMessage?topicID=2871.topic

[atb9]

I don't want to butt heads...but what the hell...  :-)

Why the question marks?  It's not fair when you cut out the rest of the paragraph.  By spending three seasons at Cornell he was then able to climb the Reeves hierarchy rather quickly after being stuck as a specialty coach for years under Reeves.  I believe Cornell was his first head coaching job and I also believe that the experience gave Reeves the confidence to put Mangurian in charge of an entire offensive unit.  Of course I know neither men so it's speculation, but again this is a message board!  ;-)

Thanks for the link!  Another name, and this time one that I'm not familiar with...will be checking him out tonight...



Post Edited (01-06-04 22:31)

[Al DeFlorio]

Mangurian was offensive line coach for Reeves with the Giants in 1992.  So I don't see much progress in Reeves bringing him back to the Falcons in the same job eight years later.  Sorry.  And what's the Michael Vick reference got to do with anything?

Interesting speculation here, of all places, though perhaps somewhat dated:

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/12/02/3fcc3b1371caf

The "feedback" is interesting, too.



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