Will the Syracuse and Clarkson sports programs go the way of John Spencer?

[marty]

Articles regarding the fight for matriculating students at Syracuse.
Number two.

Adam brought this general problem to our attention month's ago.

Those who hit a wall should know Stereax recommendeds this link or this one.

[BearLover]

With journalism dying, I don't think we should be bypassing paywalls. Either subscribe or don't read it IMO.

As to the topic at issue, there are many such cases. Unless you're one of like 15 truly elite educational brands (Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc.) or are a member of the B10 or SEC for football, I don't know how a school is supposed to sustain itself these days.

People talk all the time about School X going D-1 in hockey. Seems foolish to me. Schools can't afford another major money sink. The few who can are already committed to spending all their money on football. We may see the number of D-1 hockey schools shrink rather than grow. Similarly, I wonder if schools will start cutting their football programs. Particularly in a world where you need to spend $20m on players to compete nationally, and it's been well established that football is giving kids severe brain damage. It just doesn't make sense to play football in this climate. And of course, we should all be skeptical of the ability of any school outside the Power 4 to be paying NIL/revenue share to hockey and lacrosse players.

[marty]

With journalism dying, I don't think we should be bypassing paywalls. Either subscribe or don't read it IMO.

As to the topic at issue, there are many such cases. Unless you're one of like 15 truly elite educational brands (Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc.) or are a member of the B10 or SEC for football, I don't know how a school is supposed to sustain itself these days.

People talk all the time about School X going D-1 in hockey. Seems foolish to me. Schools can't afford another major money sink. The few who can are already committed to spending all their money on football. We may see the number of D-1 hockey schools shrink rather than grow. Similarly, I wonder if schools will start cutting their football programs. Particularly in a world where you need to spend $20m on players to compete nationally, and it's been well established that football is giving kids severe brain damage. It just doesn't make sense to play football in this climate. And of course, we should all be skeptical of the ability of any school outside the Power 4 to be paying NIL/revenue share to hockey and lacrosse players.

Hmmmm....

[BearLover]

With journalism dying, I don't think we should be bypassing paywalls. Either subscribe or don't read it IMO.

As to the topic at issue, there are many such cases. Unless you're one of like 15 truly elite educational brands (Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc.) or are a member of the B10 or SEC for football, I don't know how a school is supposed to sustain itself these days.

People talk all the time about School X going D-1 in hockey. Seems foolish to me. Schools can't afford another major money sink. The few who can are already committed to spending all their money on football. We may see the number of D-1 hockey schools shrink rather than grow. Similarly, I wonder if schools will start cutting their football programs. Particularly in a world where you need to spend $20m on players to compete nationally, and it's been well established that football is giving kids severe brain damage. It just doesn't make sense to play football in this climate. And of course, we should all be skeptical of the ability of any school outside the Power 4 to be paying NIL/revenue share to hockey and lacrosse players.

Hmmmm....

This is the first one of these that's actually funny

[billhoward]

Very good story by the WSJ, in-depth reporting and, IMO, more biting than if the Times had done it. The Journal had that great quote, ~'Syracuse thinks they're an Ivy school, and they're not,' and is pretty damn good.

I subscribe to four newspapers, runs well over a thousand dollars, but then I spent my life in newspapers then magazines. Most big papers give you ten or a dozen freely readable links per month. Some time-out after a month but most of the people here are fast readers.

The schools the WSJ says are Syracuse cohorts (and doing better than the Orange landing students) -- BU, Northeastern, NYU -- are not super big sports fan schools.

More interesting is the WSJ's line about kids, sorry, entering students, thinking warm/south/maybe big sports/public. "public" being a proxy for more affordable.   

[The Rancor]

My assumption is that, combined with price, there isn't a reason to go to Syracuse itself, compared to Gainsville, New York City or even Boston. The weather sucks, and, frankly, the city is awful and doesn't offer much. Dollar for dollar, it isn't a good value, unless you're in the area, and can't or don't want to leave. You can get a comparable education with either good weather or good fun elsewhere. Maybe for in state tuition.