Recruits 2026 and Beyond

[BearLover]

I got some grief a couple months ago for saying our recruiting seemed underwhelming and, uh...

This thread reads like a well done Mad Magazine satire from the 60's.

Bravo. Mad at its best was hard to beat.

I have a helpful exercise for you and a few other posters:

1. If you read one of my posts, pause for 30 seconds or however long it takes for the urge to respond to dissipate.

2. Pretend someone besides BearLover wrote it (substitute any poster you prefer). You can choose scoop85, or chimpfood, or Dafafone, or anyone!

3. Re-read the post. Now that the author is this other person, does the post still offend you? OR is it totally innocuous, perhaps written in a jokey manner?

If you perform this quick and easy exercise, I suspect your urge to respond with a cringe zinger will disappear! And even better, BL won't respond back at you. You'd avoid a flame war altogether!

Optional part 4 of this exercise: reflect for 30 seconds on why you wouldn't bat an eye if anyone else wrote the post.

[BearLover]

I've (finally) learned to take my own prescription with half-trolls who post decent stuff half the time and cringe the other half.  Respond to the former, do not engage at all with the latter.

Trolling dies when ignored.  A full troll will leave.  A half-troll will gradually switch over to more higher effort posts.  We all grow; the site is less mired in shit.

This is fair but I really don't think my above post comes anywhere to close to rising to this level of meta-analysis. Save the tone-policing for when I write something actually offensive. 

[marty]

I got some grief a couple months ago for saying our recruiting seemed underwhelming and, uh...

This thread reads like a well done Mad Magazine satire from the 60's.

Bravo. Mad at its best was hard to beat.

I have a helpful exercise for you and a few other posters:

1. If you read one of my posts, pause for 30 seconds or however long it takes for the urge to respond to dissipate.

2. Pretend someone besides BearLover wrote it (substitute any poster you prefer). You can choose scoop85, or chimpfood, or Dafafone, or anyone!

3. Re-read the post. Now that the author is this other person, does the post still offend you? OR is it totally innocuous, perhaps written in a jokey manner?

If you perform this quick and easy exercise, I suspect your urge to respond with a cringe zinger will disappear! And even better, BL won't respond back at you. You'd avoid a flame war altogether!

Optional part 4 of this exercise: reflect for 30 seconds on why you wouldn't bat an eye if anyone else wrote the post.

With true apology to ugarte

QED

[CornellLonghorn]

Collegepucknxt on Instagram posts that CHL --> NCAA recruit Easton Walos has a chance to go to Cornell 48 points in 68 games in the OHL and is 27 eligible. Think we have a shot?

[BearLover]

Collegepucknxt on Instagram posts that CHL --> NCAA recruit Easton Walos has a chance to go to Cornell 48 points in 68 games in the OHL and is 27 eligible. Think we have a shot?

I'm extremely skeptical of these accounts "predicting" where a recruit might land. Pretty sure they just went into his Instagram follows and saw which college hockey pages he's following. He's following Cornell's, but also each of the other teams the listed as potential destinations.

I'd love to be wrong here, but seems like a longshot.

[BearLover]

I mean, I guess the fact this presumably high end recruit is ostensibly considering us at all is a positive. But we've had many past stars consider Cornell or even commit to us, but never matriculate. Mark Schiefle and Charlie McAvoy, to name a few couple.

[stereax]

Collegepucknxt on Instagram posts that CHL --> NCAA recruit Easton Walos has a chance to go to Cornell 48 points in 68 games in the OHL and is 27 eligible. Think we have a shot?

48 in 68, 27 eligible... my hopes are low tbh

[chimpfood]

Quick lowdown on our prep guys:

Nolan Long: Aiden's brother, at Saint Andrews. Center that put up 52 points in 35 games in his age 17 season this year. Great offensive numbers but doubt we bring him in now. Would guess he spends next year in the OHL and we'll see what he can do there.

Charlie Puglisi: This is an interesting one. Forward, 107 points in 60 games this year in his age 17 season. Plays at the Winchendon school. He is ranked on the NHL draft rankings. Should he go undrafted, I assume we give him a year in his junior league of choice before bringing him in. But, if he is drafted we have a decision to make. Bring him in this year, when I don't think he'll be able to consistently crack the lineup, or give him a year in juniors which leaves him with only 2 years in college before likely leaving to sign with his NHL team. Curious to see what plays out with him.

Jack Broderick: Kent school forward,  97 points in 51 games which is great but he's been 18 all season so a bit old for the level. Should get a year of juniors before coming in as well.

Luca Diplacido: Saint Andrews defenseman. Age 17 season this year, 24 points in 29 games. Will spend at least a year in the O before coming.

Charlie Sullivan: Saint Andrews defenseman. 14 points in 35 games in his age 16 season. Will return to Saint Andrews next year and probably at least a year of juniors after that.

[stereax]

The one thing about Puglisi - from my understanding, the 4-year clock starts once he enters the NCAA, not necessarily when he's drafted. Or at least that's how it's been explained to me - the concept being that they want drafted players to be able to earn their degrees in 4 years and then still have their rights retained by their org for that 30-day negotiation window.

[The Rancor]

The one thing about Puglisi - from my understanding, the 4-year clock starts once he enters the NCAA, not necessarily when he's drafted. Or at least that's how it's been explained to me - the concept being that they want drafted players to be able to earn their degrees in 4 years and then still have their rights retained by their org for that 30-day negotiation window.

Yes, as far as I know, this is correct.

[chimpfood]

Im so lost... tried looking this up a little while ago and couldn't find anything I could understand. So it's 4 years starting when you enter college? Then why would Castagna/Hoyts rights expire if they didn't leave this year?

[Will]

Im so lost... tried looking this up a little while ago and couldn't find anything I could understand. So it's 4 years starting when you enter college? Then why would Castagna/Hoyts rights expire if they didn't leave this year?

Off the top of my head:

• They may have gotten better deals (money, playing time, etc.) at this season's end rather than waiting a year.
• They may feel their hockey development has reached its zenith in terms of what Cornell can provide, and it's time to take that next step.
• Maybe they've grown tired of the rigors of school. (Seems unlikely as both have made all-academic teams in the past, but you never know.)
• Winning championships would be nice, but maybe they see that as far less likely next season, even if they returned.

Edited to add: I guess I didn't really answer the question of would their rights expire. Their rights weren't expiring yet, but they still may have felt compelled to depart Cornell for any or all of my above listed reasons.

[BearLover]

Im so lost... tried looking this up a little while ago and couldn't find anything I could understand. So it's 4 years starting when you enter college? Then why would Castagna/Hoyts rights expire if they didn't leave this year?

Off the top of my head:

• They may have gotten better deals (money, playing time, etc.) at this season's end rather than waiting a year.
• They may feel their hockey development has reached its zenith in terms of what Cornell can provide, and it's time to take that next step.
• Maybe they've grown tired of the rigors of school. (Seems unlikely as both have made all-academic teams in the past, but you never know.)
• Winning championships would be nice, but maybe they see that as far less likely next season, even if they returned.

Edited to add: I guess I didn't really answer the question of would their rights expire. Their rights weren't expiring yet, but they still may have felt compelled to depart Cornell for any or all of my above listed reasons.

chimpfood is asking when their rights expire under the CBO, not why a player might leave early.

It's very hard to find the answer to this question, I agree. I've searched for it myself. I can't tell if a team's 4 years to sign a player start ticking upon the player being drafted, or upon them matriculating at college.

I believe, though I could be wrong, that the current rule is that a team has 30 days to sign a drafted player after their senior year is over. That means once a player is done with their senior year, they could easily wait it out and test free agency. That is, I think, why teams try to sign players after their junior year.

In practice, many players end up signing with the teams that drafted them after their senior year anyway. This has been the case for most Cornell players who were drafted.

[coz]

Im so lost... tried looking this up a little while ago and couldn't find anything I could understand. So it's 4 years starting when you enter college? Then why would Castagna/Hoyts rights expire if they didn't leave this year?

They wouldn't. They would expire at the end of next season.

If a player is drafted at age 18 their rights are held for 4 years. If they're 19 or 20 it's 3 years. That clock starts the moment they're drafted. The clock get's extended if they stay in school.


Here are 4 examples from this year's team (Though given how recent the CBA changes were none of them fall under this criteria, but if they did here's how it works.)

Castagna - Drafted at age 18, matriculated the same year. His clock would expire at the end of his senior year.

Walsh - Drafted at age 19, matriculated the same year. His clock would expire at the end of his junior year, unless he stayed in school, which would extend the clock another year.

Veilleux - Drafted at age 18, matriculated one year later. His clock would expire at the end of his junior year unless he stays in school.

Fisher - Drafted at age 18, matriculated two years later (Technically just one but he played two years of junior post draft). His clock would expire at the end of his sophomore season unless he stays in school.


Now in all practicality this changes very little for us as fans and for Cornell as a program. This mostly about giving the players more options. If Puglisi gets drafted and goes and plays junior, he can still stay at Cornell for 4 years, he just has the option to become a free agent after his junior year if he thinks he's ready and the team who drafted him doesn't want him or he wants to sign somewhere else.

Edit to say: All of our current drafted players fall under the old CBA rules which are practically the same except for the leaving early piece and signing deadline. Plus this change doesn't go into effect until the 2027 draft.

[BearLover]

Im so lost... tried looking this up a little while ago and couldn't find anything I could understand. So it's 4 years starting when you enter college? Then why would Castagna/Hoyts rights expire if they didn't leave this year?

They wouldn't. They would expire at the end of next season.

If a player is drafted at age 18 their rights are held for 4 years. If they're 19 or 20 it's 3 years. That clock starts the moment they're drafted. The clock get's extended if they stay in school.


Here are 4 examples from this year's team (Though given how recent the CBA changes were none of them fall under this criteria, but if they did here's how it works.)

Castagna - Drafted at age 18, matriculated the same year. His clock would expire at the end of his senior year.

Walsh - Drafted at age 19, matriculated the same year. His clock would expire at the end of his junior year, unless he stayed in school, which would extend the clock another year.

Veilleux - Drafted at age 18, matriculated one year later. His clock would expire at the end of his junior year unless he stays in school.

Fisher - Drafted at age 18, matriculated two years later (Technically just one but he played two years of junior post draft). His clock would expire at the end of his sophomore season unless he stays in school.


Now in all practicality this changes very little for us as fans and for Cornell as a program. This mostly about giving the players more options. If Puglisi gets drafted and goes and plays junior, he can still stay at Cornell for 4 years, he just has the option to become a free agent after his junior year if he thinks he's ready and the team who drafted him doesn't want him or he wants to sign somewhere else.

Edit to say: All of our current drafted players fall under the old CBA rules which are practically the same except for the leaving early piece and signing deadline. Plus this change doesn't go into effect until the 2027 draft.

I know this rule was discussed, and perhaps even enacted, as part of the recent CBA, but I was told that it does not apply to kids in college. Which is to say, for kids in college, the drafting team's signing rights still don't expire until 30 days after their senior year, regardless of their age when drafted.

That's the part I'm trying to confirm - does the new CBA rule actually apply to college kids, or or college kids treated the same as they were under the old CBA?