Recruits 2026 and Beyond

[Beeeej]

Harvard 2

Oh no! However will we know how deeply below potential they're performing??

[BearLover]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

[stereax]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Same amount of kids get drafted a year.

Now more of 'em get to go to Denver and MichState.

CHL -> NCAA is becoming somewhat common among draft picks nowadays. Back in The Day, we'd have Canadian guys in the BCHL and shit so they could come play NCAA hockey. Now they can play in the OHL and then go to the NCAA. Which tends to help the rich get richer.

Would be interested in seeing how many NHL picks pre-CHL stuff went the NCAA route and the proportional number of those that went to different schools.

Also, I need to write Tom Fitzgerald vs A Potato.

[BearLover]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Same amount of kids get drafted a year.

Now more of 'em get to go to Denver and MichState.

CHL -> NCAA is becoming somewhat common among draft picks nowadays. Back in The Day, we'd have Canadian guys in the BCHL and shit so they could come play NCAA hockey. Now they can play in the OHL and then go to the NCAA. Which tends to help the rich get richer.

Would be interested in seeing how many NHL picks pre-CHL stuff went the NCAA route and the proportional number of those that went to different schools.

Also, I need to write Tom Fitzgerald vs A Potato.

You might be able to find recaps of past drafts somewhere on the internet or even on this forum, but from memory Harvard was averaging around 4 players per draft, we were averaging around 2, the rest of the ECAC 0-1 except maybe Q or Clarkson with 1-2. Then the very top teams like BU, BC, or Michigan would get around 5-6 with 1-2 first rounders usually. In the late 2010s Harvard was on par with the pure bluebloods and in fact a few years ago Harvard led the entire country in draft picks on its roster with 16.

Now there are way more drafted players in the NCAA in general, but more importantly they are more concentrated on the top teams, especially the first rounders.

We all knew CHL eligibility would increase the talent in college hockey by virtue of a much larger player pool to select from. What I don't think people predicted was the second order effect of this, that better talent begets better talent. Because NCAA hockey is better, now the very best players go to the NCAA for a year or two. They almost all play in the B10, NCHC, or HE because they offer the toughest competition, the best facilities, etc. Now all the North American players whose only goal is to make the NHL are coming to college, and if your only goal is the NHL then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to play in the ECAC.

[BearLover]

Added another to BU, giving them 8.

Draft picks (first rounders) by league
Big 10: 32 (9)    [7 teams]
NCHC: 30 (6)      [9 teams]
HE: 34 (4)        [12 teams]
ECAC: 9 (0)      [12 teams]
CCHA: 4 (0)      [9 teams]
AH: 0 (0)        [9 teams]
Independent: 1 (0) [5 teams]

Draft picks (first rounders) by league, per teams in league
Big 10: 4.6 (1.3) per team
NCHC: 3.33 (0.67) per team
HE: 2.8 (.33) per team
ECAC: .75 (0.0) per team
CCHA: .44 (0.0) per team
AH: 0.0 (0.0) per team
Independent: .2 (0.0) per team

[Trotsky]

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting.

This statement adds nothing.

A few years ago, we had few WFAN I'll hang up and listen sweat glands posts on eLynah.  The "<Stephen A Smith> <urgency> <adversarial> <are your throw rugs KILLING YOUR KIDS?!?!> <now just apply to anything>" style that's ubiquitous everywhere else on the intertubes hadn't found a footing here.

My little rant:

1. I hate it.
2. It adds nothing beyond shout shout / me me.
3. I miss the days when we were free of it.

Yeah, the quoted guy* is one epicenter, but we're all doing it more and more and it blows.  I'll try to refrain.

<sub>* Lest this be taken as a personal flame**, look at the substantive part of his posts about the conferences and frequency of picks.  They're great.  The numbers speak for themselves.  They don't need to be amplified by interpretation.  We can all read a chart and draw conclusions.  Thank you for compiling the data -- it adds to the universe.

** Personal flames will typically be indicated by favorable comparisons to Billy Joel and Jerry Seinfeld.</sub>

[BearLover]

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting.

This statement adds nothing.

Setting aside the fact pretty much every statement on a hockey fan forum adds little to nothing, my statement diagnoses a problem. You may disagree, but I actually think it's important to state: the bar for recruiting has been raised, but Cornell is largely stuck where we were pre-CHL eligibility. Same goes for the rest of our conference.

[stereax]

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting.

This statement adds nothing.

Setting aside the fact pretty much every statement on a hockey fan forum adds little to nothing, my statement diagnoses a problem. You may disagree, but I actually think it's important to state: the bar for recruiting has been raised, but Cornell is largely stuck where we were pre-CHL eligibility. Same goes for the rest of our conference.

So it's an ECAC problem more broadly and not a Cornell one.

How exactly is Cornell meant to rise above being in a "worse" conference?

[marty]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Hard to believe that you would ever repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat....

[BearLover]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Hard to believe that you would ever repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat....

I recently checked your posting history and over half of your last 50 posts were complaining about me

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting.

This statement adds nothing.

Setting aside the fact pretty much every statement on a hockey fan forum adds little to nothing, my statement diagnoses a problem. You may disagree, but I actually think it's important to state: the bar for recruiting has been raised, but Cornell is largely stuck where we were pre-CHL eligibility. Same goes for the rest of our conference.

So it's an ECAC problem more broadly and not a Cornell one.

How exactly is Cornell meant to rise above being in a "worse" conference?

I don't know, maybe we're screwed. I'm hopeful the other Ivies improve with their new coaches and the conference becomes more competitive. Though, those schools compete with us for recruits so it's a double-edged sword. It is also imperative we keep Quinnipiac in conference (rather than leaving for Hockey East). Unless, of course, you care about ECAC titles more than being nationally competitive, in which case you'd prefer our conference to be as horrible as possible. Personally, my goal is a frozen four/national title.

It is also critical we retain players and not lose them early to the pros/portal, like Dartmouth and Harvard manage to do. That is the Ivies' competitive advantage.

Lastly, I do think we can recruit a bit better even given our constraints. The Castagna/Walsh/Stanley/Fegaras/Robertson/Devlin/Kraft/Catalano class was just a few years ago.

[stereax]

Devcamp notes, from someone who hasn't compiled fully yet (will add more to list when I get a minute to check every team's):

- Gio to Rangers camp (known)
- Zadvernyuk and Walters to Kings camp
- Hiscock to Panthers camp

[adamw]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Same amount of kids get drafted a year.

Now more of 'em get to go to Denver and MichState.

CHL -> NCAA is becoming somewhat common among draft picks nowadays. Back in The Day, we'd have Canadian guys in the BCHL and shit so they could come play NCAA hockey. Now they can play in the OHL and then go to the NCAA. Which tends to help the rich get richer.

Would be interested in seeing how many NHL picks pre-CHL stuff went the NCAA route and the proportional number of those that went to different schools.

You can find all those numbers and a lot more here:
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/draft-history.php

And you can click on the years to see the individual year breakdown.

[marty]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Hard to believe that you would ever repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat....

I recently checked your posting history and over half of your last 50 posts were complaining about me

Because you repeat the same crap over and over and have moved this forum toward the mentality of a bad ESPN radio broadcast.

You aren't obliged to fill the entire forum the way a radio broadcaster fills a show.

[stereax]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Hard to believe that you would ever repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat....

I recently checked your posting history and over half of your last 50 posts were complaining about me

Because you repeat the same crap over and over and have moved this forum toward the mentality of a bad ESPN radio broadcast.

You aren't obliged to fill the entire forum the way a radio broadcaster fills a show.

pro tip if you want a bit to commit to and repeat consistently, at least make it funny

see: caton ryan being good at hockey

[BearLover]

Added and 8th pick for PSU and the first pick for Michigan Tech as well.

I'll repeat what I said like 6 months ago that we need to pick up our recruiting. 2ish players per draft was alright before the CHL opened. Now it's too far below par.

Hard to believe that you would ever repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat anything, repeat....

I recently checked your posting history and over half of your last 50 posts were complaining about me

Because you repeat the same crap over and over and have moved this forum toward the mentality of a bad ESPN radio broadcast.

You aren't obliged to fill the entire forum the way a radio broadcaster fills a show.

With the new NCAA five-year eligibility rule, things are looking very grim for Cornell athletics