GoalieInput

Started by HOTELCALIFORNIA, November 03, 2003, 10:03:03 PM

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Keith K \'93

Thanks Craig.  Your example proves my point though.  The only seasons without a platoon were the ones where we had one established goalie who was head and shoulders above the other options.  (1997-98 was the year after Pelletier left leaving Ian Burt and Nate Hicks to backup Elliott.)

REDhead

About the helmet--at the 'post-game reception' I asked when he was gonna get color-coordinated, and he said his CU helmet was due four weeks ago, there's been some sort of snafu with the helmet artiste. He feels "embarrassed" by the current one, so let's hope he gets the real deal soon or we'll have to donate a can of carnellian red spray paint....

Will

McKee can't get his helmet, we can't get our new band CDs...what's this world coming to?! :-P

Is next year here yet?

Jeff Hopkins \'82

Don't you mean Nowheresville, BC?

JH

Jeff Hopkins \'82

Sounds like trouble with the artwork.   :-P

JH

jy3

damn, those helmits cost a lot!

as for his current one, i kinda love the big hatchet on the side so i am cool with the one is using now :)

i thought that he really didnt have a chance on many of the goals this weekend because the defense left him out to dry. lenny may have made a few more saves on those shots but I have a feeling that McKee may be able to make some of the saves as he becomes more experienced b/c he will learn how to better read the defense and anticipate moves. it wasnt that he let in soft goals it was that he didnt make enough spectacular plays to get the win or tie. make sense?

LGR!!!!!!!!!!
jy3 '00

chris \'06

i think mckee looked understandably shaky at the onset of game 1, but settled in pretty fast. i can't really fault him for any of the goals that got past him, i can say though that he showed a little of what he's got in game 2. some of the saves he made there shouldn't have been made (the 3 on nothing comes to mind). not only that but he showed good composure when faced with WMU crashing the net. he stood in there and got the puck and didn't worry about getting knocked around a little. thats all i can remember from being there right now

DeltaOne81

[Q]some of the saves he made there shouldn't have been made (the 3 on nothing comes to mind)[/Q]
One thing about that, and this isn't to take anything away from McKee, but the stupidity of the WMU player turned the 3 on 0 into a 1 on 0. He cut in front, going in solo, completely not using the other two guys he had. Dave was free to concentrate on him and ignore the other two, cause the way he was going a pass would have been very difficult, and he made it definitely seem like he had no intention to do so. It wouldn't have been Dave's fault had he let something in and a 3 on 0, you can't expect him to make that stop, but the WMU guy did everything he could to make it as easy as possible.

chris \'06

i agree completely, but it's still not an easy save to make. any rebound would have been slammed home with ease, so mckee turned it into the corner instead where his teammates had a better chance of getting posession. but yeah, it could have been a lot worse with some basic passing between those three players

Section A

How ironic it is that, last year, the apparent SUCCESS of LeNeveu was so often attributed to our defense, but during this past week, the apparent FAILURES of McKee have been blamed on him, with no mention anymore of our defense. It's a little unfair. He's not LeNeveu, but anyone who was there saw that, once he settled in after his first collegiate period, he's better than his current GAA.

I know some people have touched on this, but at least 4 of those 5 goals on Friday and ALL THREE of Saturday's goals against McKee were the result of defensive mistakes that just didn't happen last year when Murray, Bell and Mark McRae were around.

Now that said, I'd still start Marr this weekend in at least a game, provided he's healthy :-P

rhovorka

QuoteAvash '05 wrote:

How ironic it is that, last year, the apparent SUCCESS of LeNeveu was so often attributed to our defense, but during this past week, the apparent FAILURES of McKee have been blamed on him, with no mention anymore of our defense. It's a little unfair.

I'm not going to go through all the posts on this forum, but there have been a number of people (probably on the game threads) who provided good game analysis that singled out the defensive mistakes and didn't heap the blame on McKee.  Most people have praised him for settling down and being much more stable after the first 30 minutes of Friday.
Rich H '96

Section A

I know, I know....I agree with you. I should have been more clear. My post was only in response to those people who are very quick to judge McKee without considering the awful defensive mistakes we made during the games (especially during the first game).

marty

QuoteAvash '05 wrote:

I know, I know....I agree with you. I should have been more clear. My post was only in response to those people who are very quick to judge McKee without considering the awful defensive mistakes we made during the games (especially during the first game).

Anyone who criticizes a freshman goalie especially one in McKee's situation this weekend has never had pucks whizzing by their head at God knows how many MPH.  Or maybe, just maybe they were hit in the head with a few of the aforementioned pucks.

"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Section A

Well this has nothing to do with goalies (and it's extremely pointless, so feel free to stop reading), but anyway...

I remember thinking to myself, after Friday night's 5-5 tie, that if we saw a lot of shootout-style games like that this year, it would be a pretty exciting season. After all, Lynah was electric during that third period and overtime. But then I began to wonder of the liklihood of actually winning games like that. And since I'm bored and don't feel like watching the Cavs and Nuggets play on ESPN, I just looked up how we did in the last 5 seasons when giving up four or more goals a game, and our record was an awful 3-26-2, with the last of the three wins coming on Dec 27, 2000 in a 6-5 OT win over Ohio State. Also, in games in which we AND our opponents scored at least four goals a game, we were 3-3-2. So I guess my point is that, in recent history, we haven't done too well in high-scoring games, making it all the more important for our defense to improve, which I think it will.

Um, now I have to find something else to waste my time on..... :-P



Post Edited (11-05-03 21:54)

DeltaOne81

[Q]i agree completely, but it's still not an easy save to make. any rebound would have been slammed home with ease, so mckee turned it into the corner instead where his teammates had a better chance of getting posession. but yeah, it could have been a lot worse with some basic passing between those three players[/Q]
Yup. I agree. Wasn't trying to say it was easy. Just wanted to point out that it wasn't like he was really stopping a 3 on 0, but a 1 on 0 with 2 guys trailing. Still did plenty well though.