Meinig Fieldhouse Construction

Started by Ken711, May 15, 2025, 01:14:35 PM

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Ken711

Quote from: upprdeckit would have made a little pub perhaps if they had a live camera.  Of course students would have complained most likely.

When SU did the JMA construction they had a crazy amount of viewing that stream.

Brown University's indoor turf facility has them.

https://facilities.brown.edu/projects/construction-cameras/itf-construction-project-construction-cameras

Ken711

Brown University started their construction about 3-4 months ahead of Cornell.  Here's their topping off ceremony that gives you a better overhead of their facility.  I wonder if Cornell will also perform a similar ceremony at some point.

Brown U Indoor Turf Facility

upprdeck

Of course, every place Cornell puts up a live cam gets then sued by students for privacy,  We cant have safety get in the way,

billhoward

Trying to learn more about the size of Brown indoor turf field vs. Meinig Field House. Cornell's is listed as 91,150 SF, Brown at 76,000. For reference:

Football field with end zones is 120 x 53.3 yards = 39,600 sf (1 acre = 43,560 sf)
Field plus 20 feet on each side = 56,000 sf
Cornell says the practice turf measures 360 x 180 ft = 64,800.
The 91,150 sf Cornell cites may include locker rooms, bathrooms.

Cornell has said the field house allows for NCAA lacrosse games to be played inside. That means a decent ceiling height. Brown speaks only of practice fields.

Cornell says the field will be available 17 hours a day, so like 6am to 11pm? I have played pickup at Lynah as late as 2 or 3 am, never been awake early enough to know when it reopened.

Overall:
— This is fabulous for Cornell, athletes, students
— I can see competition for time on the field. Is it possible some early ayem and midday hours are set aside for athletes? Maybe the field is section for say both soccer and lacrosse workouts, or one side for students, one for student athletes?
— I'm guess if demand for field house time exceeds supply, students may be squeezed. It would annoy me as a student. As an alum, I want the field house to bring league and national success. I remember [safety alert: old alum pontificating] we could play touch football on Schoellkopf many hours a day including on weekends. I think now it's harder to throw a frisbee there.

David Harding

Quote from: billhowardTrying to learn more about the size of Brown indoor turf field vs. Meinig Field House. Cornell's is listed as 91,150 SF, Brown at 76,000. For reference:

Football field with end zones is 120 x 53.3 yards = 39,600 sf (1 acre = 43,560 sf)
Field plus 20 feet on each side = 56,000 sf
Cornell says the practice turf measures 360 x 180 ft = 64,800.
The 91,150 sf Cornell cites may include locker rooms, bathrooms.

Cornell has said the field house allows for NCAA lacrosse games to be played inside. That means a decent ceiling height. Brown speaks only of practice fields.

Cornell says the field will be available 17 hours a day, so like 6am to 11pm? I have played pickup at Lynah as late as 2 or 3 am, never been awake early enough to know when it reopened.

Overall:
— This is fabulous for Cornell, athletes, students
— I can see competition for time on the field. Is it possible some early ayem and midday hours are set aside for athletes? Maybe the field is section for say both soccer and lacrosse workouts, or one side for students, one for student athletes?
— I'm guess if demand for field house time exceeds supply, students may be squeezed. It would annoy me as a student. As an alum, I want the field house to bring league and national success. I remember [safety alert: old alum pontificating] we could play touch football on Schoellkopf many hours a day including on weekends. I think now it's harder to throw a frisbee there.

A year ago when Cornell was getting City approvals they submitted this document.  Pages 9 and 10 have charts of the projected time allocations hour-by-hour for each field.  I'm disappointed to see intramurals barely mentioned in the text and not at all in the schedule.

chimpfood

Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: billhowardTrying to learn more about the size of Brown indoor turf field vs. Meinig Field House. Cornell's is listed as 91,150 SF, Brown at 76,000. For reference:

Football field with end zones is 120 x 53.3 yards = 39,600 sf (1 acre = 43,560 sf)
Field plus 20 feet on each side = 56,000 sf
Cornell says the practice turf measures 360 x 180 ft = 64,800.
The 91,150 sf Cornell cites may include locker rooms, bathrooms.

Cornell has said the field house allows for NCAA lacrosse games to be played inside. That means a decent ceiling height. Brown speaks only of practice fields.

Cornell says the field will be available 17 hours a day, so like 6am to 11pm? I have played pickup at Lynah as late as 2 or 3 am, never been awake early enough to know when it reopened.

Overall:
— This is fabulous for Cornell, athletes, students
— I can see competition for time on the field. Is it possible some early ayem and midday hours are set aside for athletes? Maybe the field is section for say both soccer and lacrosse workouts, or one side for students, one for student athletes?
— I'm guess if demand for field house time exceeds supply, students may be squeezed. It would annoy me as a student. As an alum, I want the field house to bring league and national success. I remember [safety alert: old alum pontificating] we could play touch football on Schoellkopf many hours a day including on weekends. I think now it's harder to throw a frisbee there.

A year ago when Cornell was getting City approvals they submitted this document.  Pages 9 and 10 have charts of the projected time allocations hour-by-hour for each field.  I'm disappointed to see intramurals barely mentioned in the text and not at all in the schedule.
Intramurals never have access to varsity facilities. Soccer is on jessup road, not Berman field, flag football same spot. Hell basketball isn't even on a real court, it's inside Barton hall.

That's one change I have been wishing for a while now, let the non athletes use these nice facilities at some point. I get the main purpose is for the varsity teams but it would be more fun and engagement with those sports could improve if you let intramurals happen in the nice facilities.

David Harding

Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: billhowardTrying to learn more about the size of Brown indoor turf field vs. Meinig Field House. Cornell's is listed as 91,150 SF, Brown at 76,000. For reference:

Football field with end zones is 120 x 53.3 yards = 39,600 sf (1 acre = 43,560 sf)
Field plus 20 feet on each side = 56,000 sf
Cornell says the practice turf measures 360 x 180 ft = 64,800.
The 91,150 sf Cornell cites may include locker rooms, bathrooms.

Cornell has said the field house allows for NCAA lacrosse games to be played inside. That means a decent ceiling height. Brown speaks only of practice fields.

Cornell says the field will be available 17 hours a day, so like 6am to 11pm? I have played pickup at Lynah as late as 2 or 3 am, never been awake early enough to know when it reopened.

Overall:
— This is fabulous for Cornell, athletes, students
— I can see competition for time on the field. Is it possible some early ayem and midday hours are set aside for athletes? Maybe the field is section for say both soccer and lacrosse workouts, or one side for students, one for student athletes?
— I'm guess if demand for field house time exceeds supply, students may be squeezed. It would annoy me as a student. As an alum, I want the field house to bring league and national success. I remember [safety alert: old alum pontificating] we could play touch football on Schoellkopf many hours a day including on weekends. I think now it's harder to throw a frisbee there.

A year ago when Cornell was getting City approvals they submitted this document.  Pages 9 and 10 have charts of the projected time allocations hour-by-hour for each field.  I'm disappointed to see intramurals barely mentioned in the text and not at all in the schedule.
Intramurals never have access to varsity facilities. Soccer is on jessup road, not Berman field, flag football same spot. Hell basketball isn't even on a real court, it's inside Barton hall.

That's one change I have been wishing for a while now, let the non athletes use these nice facilities at some point. I get the main purpose is for the varsity teams but it would be more fun and engagement with those sports could improve if you let intramurals happen in the nice facilities.

I know that life marches on, but as an undergraduate I played intramural hockey on the same Lynah ice that the varsity team skated on and played intramural basketball on the same Barton floor that the basketball team played on.  The intramural track meet was on the same Barton surface that hosted the indoor Heptagonals.  At least there's planned time in the day for PE classes on the new fields.

Iceberg

Quote from: chimpfoodIntramurals never have access to varsity facilities. Soccer is on jessup road, not Berman field, flag football same spot. Hell basketball isn't even on a real court, it's inside Barton hall.

That's one change I have been wishing for a while now, let the non athletes use these nice facilities at some point. I get the main purpose is for the varsity teams but it would be more fun and engagement with those sports could improve if you let intramurals happen in the nice facilities.


This I remember being the case for intramurals, but not necessarily for PE classes, where we sometimes used the same playing surfaces (e.g. Newman for basketball) as varsity players. Oftentimes for PE ice hockey, we'd use the visitors' locker room to change. In fact, one year, I thought I had left my glasses behind in the locker room and the next day, I went searching for them. By this time, one of the visiting teams had already arrived on campus and left their equipment in the room but none of the team members were in the rink at the time. The guy working at the rink (not the main manager dude who's still at the rink but another guy) was kind enough to let me into the locker room to look for them and all the shelves were so pristinely organized with the players' equipment. I didn't find the glasses there, but I correctly deduced that I had left them in a classroom at the Ag Quad and reached out to the TA for that class, who did take them for safekeeping and gave them back to me the next time we met.

Ken711

Hope someone can post a recent photo or two of the current construction progress.

CU2007

Quote from: Ken711Hope someone can post a recent photo or two of the current construction progress.

Can't help you there, but also interested. What is the projected open date? In time for this winter? I don't know anything about construction, but I imagine a field house is a fairly simple build compared to other things.

Ken711

Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Ken711Hope someone can post a recent photo or two of the current construction progress.

Can't help you there, but also interested. What is the projected open date? In time for this winter? I don't know anything about construction, but I imagine a field house is a fairly simple build compared to other things.

I heard they were aiming for Spring 2026 (Mar 21 - June 21), so not this winter. It's not just inside the fieldhouse finishing work, but also the adjacent Multi-Use playing field next door, and all the landscaping, park-like grounds outside.

George64

A fleeting glimpse at about two minutes in [https://youtu.be/ujPiHo6MKIY?si=VIQoAZaiejHUtLXY].  Stay to the end - a dramatic finale.

Ken711

Update photo and other information:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Flooking-for-meinig-fieldhouse-construction-progress-pics-v0-58xcdgvou0ff1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D3024%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D8f4e53eb8e5a1cc335c7c014d496201f14d65789

There are 11 main structural spanning metal beams, and they have installed 10 of them now. The final structural beam can been seen laying on the ground on the construction site and will probably be installed soon.  They have already starting installing the built up rubber membrane roofing system on the roof section from the soccer field working toward Weill Hall.

I heard from Nicki Moore that they are planning a having topping of ceremony for the final steel roofing beam similar to the topping ceremony that Brown University conducted back in March for their under construction fieldhouse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phtPsgRpbZo

Cop at Lynah

The fact that there are no real locker rooms in this massive building is just a head scratcher

Ken711

Quote from: Cop at LynahThe fact that there are no real locker rooms in this massive building is just a head scratcher

Most indoor practice facilities don't have locker rooms, I don't see it as a head scratcher with the proximity to Schoellkolf.  On the other hand, not that many will have a mezzanine with a limited viewing area and two team meeting rooms like the Meinig facility will have.