NCAA tournament: CU vs Richmond 5/19

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mike1960

Quote from: rss77Kirst did not seem to moving at the pace he has most of the year.  He has taken a ton of shots to the body this season so not sure if we credit Richmond's defense or potential minor injury?  I will comment that I amazed at the way Goldstein moves his feet.  I think 90% of us would trip over our own feet if we tried to move like him.

The Spider doubled CJ often today, and then hustled back to recover after he passed the ball. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there didn't seem to be anything particularly special about what they did. They were well coached, and they worked their tails off. That's how lacrosse defense is supposed to be played. It reminds me of our Ben DeLuca defenses from back in the day.

arugula

That's what I saw too but you know a helluva lot more about the game than me.  They reminded me of the Florida Panthers. Swarming.  Do spiders swarm?

Tcl123

Quote from: arugulaThat's what I saw too but you know a helluva lot more about the game than me.  They reminded me of the Florida Panthers. Swarming.  Do spiders swarm?[/

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CU77

Quote from: billhowardKnust was an all-round All-America Saturday.
Knust -> Kirst

This was not one of Knust's better games ...

Swampy

Quote from: djk26
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: djk26As I walked out of the stadium, I was happy because of the three things: 1) Cornell won, 2) I heard "Davy" rather than "Free Bird", 3) Cornell doesn't have to play Richmond again this year.

Couldn't tell on the broadcast: what was being played after goals and by whom?

(Important info for a "discussion" I'm slowly having.)

After each Cornell goal, it was a PA recording of "Free Bird."  After each Richmond goal, it was a PA recording of a rap song. Richmond had a band there, I think. I couldn't tell if Cornell did, and I left right when the game ended, so I couldn't tell who was playing "Davy" after the game ended.

I don't get it about "Free Bird." OK, so the band's not allowed to play after the team scores. And I suppose they can't find a recording of "Davy" for the PA system. But in the NYC metro area no less, why can't they play "Give My Regards to Broadway" for krise sake?

Scersk '97

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: djk26
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: djk26As I walked out of the stadium, I was happy because of the three things: 1) Cornell won, 2) I heard "Davy" rather than "Free Bird", 3) Cornell doesn't have to play Richmond again this year.

Couldn't tell on the broadcast: what was being played after goals and by whom?

(Important info for a "discussion" I'm slowly having.)

After each Cornell goal, it was a PA recording of "Free Bird."  After each Richmond goal, it was a PA recording of a rap song. Richmond had a band there, I think. I couldn't tell if Cornell did, and I left right when the game ended, so I couldn't tell who was playing "Davy" after the game ended.

I don't get it about "Free Bird." OK, so the band's not allowed to play after the team scores. And I suppose they can't find a recording of "Davy" for the PA system. But in the NYC metro area no less, why can't they play "Give My Regards to Broadway" for krise sake?

Exactly. I'm slowly trying to get to the bottom of all this, but I'm liking nothing I'm hearing on the way down.

billhoward

CJ Kirst had three season highs, per Cornell stats:
13  --  Shots (at) goal
 3  --  Caused turnovers
10  --  Ground balls

... 10 GBs? Guy thinks he's a midfielder as well.

Kirst is now at (career) 247 goals, 97 assists, 338 points, 159 GBs, 63 CTs. His first three seasons' shooting percentage was .306, .367, .326 and this year .455, almost .100 better than all other years, This year, nearly half the time he shoots, the ball is in the net.

mike1960

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: djk26
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: djk26As I walked out of the stadium, I was happy because of the three things: 1) Cornell won, 2) I heard "Davy" rather than "Free Bird", 3) Cornell doesn't have to play Richmond again this year.

Couldn't tell on the broadcast: what was being played after goals and by whom?

(Important info for a "discussion" I'm slowly having.)

After each Cornell goal, it was a PA recording of "Free Bird."  After each Richmond goal, it was a PA recording of a rap song. Richmond had a band there, I think. I couldn't tell if Cornell did, and I left right when the game ended, so I couldn't tell who was playing "Davy" after the game ended.

I don't get it about "Free Bird." OK, so the band's not allowed to play after the team scores. And I suppose they can't find a recording of "Davy" for the PA system. But in the NYC metro area no less, why can't they play "Give My Regards to Broadway" for krise sake?

Exactly. I'm slowly trying to get to the bottom of all this, but I'm liking nothing I'm hearing on the way down.

Can't put a price on first-class research.

Jim Hyla

I'd love to see (hear) someone do a Post report. It seemed like half of Richmond's goals were hitting the post and in.

The goalie is not supposed to save those.

A silly mm off and those bounce out.

So I don't think the save percentage was as bad as people were saying.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

dag14

Quote from: Jim HylaI'd love to see (hear) someone do a Post report. It seemed like half of Richmond's goals were hitting the post and in.

The goalie is not supposed to save those.

A silly mm off and those bounce out.

So I don't think the save percentage was as bad as people were saying.

Not a good day but it happens.  I just hope it doesn't happen again next weekend.

Any shot that is on goal is a shot that a goaltender will tell you that s/he should save.  I have one in my family, so I know the good ones don't make excuses for the shots that get by them.

CU2007

Quote from: Jim HylaI'd love to see (hear) someone do a Post report. It seemed like half of Richmond's goals were hitting the post and in.

The goalie is not supposed to save those.

A silly mm off and those bounce out.

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This isn't really true. A guy can shoot from 30 yards out and even if it goes in off the post, it should have been be stopped. Or, like we saw, a guy can shoot from a horrible angle off the post and in and that too should have been saved.

stereax

Quote from: mike1960Edit: We also have the greatest college lacrosse player in the galaxy.
Jesus Kirst Superstar begins playing in the background.

BearLover

I am curious which of the goals people think Knust should have stopped. Very few of the goals looked soft to me. Richmond placed their shots super well. I see no reason to believe Knust won't have a bounce-back game.

Cornell solidly outplayed Richmond. We almost lost due to bad puck luck but we I believe win that game at least 8 times out of 10, adjusting for luck.

I don't get the people saying Richmond was a particularly scary opponent. I mean, they're a very good team, but not scarier than just about any other team in the final 8. Penn State looks tougher on paper.

Must be difficult for the coaches to know what to do if Bozzi and Box aren't 100%. Tough to feel these things out in the game itself when every possession matters.

RichH

That game was about as close to an analogy as you can get in lax to the Cornell-MSU matchup in hockey. A clear favorite with the best player in the country vs a defensive roadblock built to upset superior offensive juggernauts. It felt the playing surface was clearly tilted in one direction, yet there we were, trailing every quarter, and then finding ourselves in the last minute facing a situation where one execution/defensive lapse could cause disaster.

That aside, I was nervous because how many teams can say they held a 5 goal lead against Cornell this year? The potential was clear.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Jim HylaI'd love to see (hear) someone do a Post report. It seemed like half of Richmond's goals were hitting the post and in.

The goalie is not supposed to save those.

A silly mm off and those bounce out.

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This isn't really true. A guy can shoot from 30 yards out and even if it goes in off the post, it should have been be stopped. Or, like we saw, a guy can shoot from a horrible angle off the post and in and that too should have been saved.

So basically you're saying that every shot should be stopped.

Then the logical extension of that is every goal against is the goalies fault.

I just don't buy that.

In lacrosse and hockey a very well placed shot goes in. If it's stopped, we bow to the goalie.

The goalie can't physically cover 100% of the goal 100% of the time. You just can't do that.

You play your angles and your percentages. If the shooter is able to pick that small spot that you can't cover, then it's a great shot.

You forget about it. Go on to the next play, realizing that if you play things correctly, you'll save X% of the shots.

But you can't save all of them.

And not everything is your fault.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005