Regionals

Started by Tcl123, March 30, 2025, 08:02:53 PM

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Tcl123

Penn state obviously benefited from two home games just bc of money (sponsor). We aren't poor. We are historically more successful than psu. Why aren't we sponsoring a regional? Binghamton? Syracuse?

CU2007

Not our sponsorship but there is one in Rochester in a few years. If we are there we should have, what, 5,000 fans? Albany also has a regional soon.

scoop85

Quote from: toddlosePenn state obviously benefited from two home games just bc of money (sponsor). We aren't poor. We are historically more successful than psu. Why aren't we sponsoring a regional? Binghamton? Syracuse?

Yeah, big boost from that crowd I'm sure. I was pulling for UCONN in what was an entertaining OT. Meanwhile, Denver's is all over BC with a 2-0 lead, and they had a 3rd goal disallowed due to an offsides.

marty

Quote from: CU2007Not our sponsorship but there is one in Rochester in a few years. If we are there we should have, what, 5,000 fans? Albany also has a regional soon.

RPI hosted at least one of the Albany Regionals but the last two were sponsored by the ECAC rather than RPI or nearby Union.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

upprdeck

AD doesn't want to spend time or money to deal with a Regional.  

Denver and Fargo in 2027 means those eastern teams are gonna be scrambling to try and stay home

2028 with ND and SD both hosting means travel will be fun.

arugula

Quote from: CU2007Not our sponsorship but there is one in Rochester in a few years. If we are there we should have, what, 5,000 fans? Albany also has a regional soon.

When it was held in Albany over the years it was such a small crowd that they curtained off the upper bowl.

abmarks

Quote from: upprdeckAD doesn't want to spend time or money to deal with a Regional.  

Denver and Fargo in 2027 means those eastern teams are gonna be scrambling to try and stay home

2028 with ND and SD both hosting means travel will be fun.


I know Andy didn't want to.   Anyone ask or hear Nikki's thoughts?

upprdeck

Regional attendance is a hard nut to crack.

Pointing out a small crowd for Albany is wrong


Albany attendance last time was about 2500/3500
Wooster was 6000/2800
Colorado was 2000/5000
allentown was 2000/3000

PSU in Allentown and winning Attendance 7K this year

Teams/locations/ and playing the fri/sat games all help attendance.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: upprdeckRegional attendance is a hard nut to crack.

Pointing out a small crowd for Albany is wrong


Albany attendance last time was about 2500/3500
Wooster was 6000/2800
Colorado was 2000/5000
allentown was 2000/3000

PSU in Allentown and winning Attendance 7K this year

Teams/locations/ and playing the fri/sat games all help attendance.

I guess the sites are set for a few years, but I think one of the western sites should bit to host two regionals in the same year, one Thu/Sat and one Fri/Sun; then you can boost the attendance of the "middle" two days by capturing the fans that are otherwise waiting around in between their team's two games.  And for that matter, you'll probably convince more people to travel to the regionals in the first place knowing they don't have a day to kill out in Bison Crap, Montana or wherever the regional is being held.

Chris '03

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: upprdeckRegional attendance is a hard nut to crack.

Pointing out a small crowd for Albany is wrong


Albany attendance last time was about 2500/3500
Wooster was 6000/2800
Colorado was 2000/5000
allentown was 2000/3000

PSU in Allentown and winning Attendance 7K this year

Teams/locations/ and playing the fri/sat games all help attendance.

I guess the sites are set for a few years, but I think one of the western sites should bit to host two regionals in the same year, one Thu/Sat and one Fri/Sun; then you can boost the attendance of the "middle" two days by capturing the fans that are otherwise waiting around in between their team's two games.  And for that matter, you'll probably convince more people to travel to the regionals in the first place knowing they don't have a day to kill out in Bison Crap, Montana or wherever the regional is being held.

This. I favor two super regional sites that are as fixed as possible year to year. Make the conferences host so there's no PSU type issues. Make it easy for fans to plan and develop traditions year over year. And guarantee eastern conference champs stay in one of the two east brackets and west champs stay west. Make it more worth the fans' while to take a Thursday and Friday off and still give coaches the rest day they want. First game at five on Thursday and Sunday final at noon.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

jtwcornell91

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: upprdeckRegional attendance is a hard nut to crack.

Pointing out a small crowd for Albany is wrong


Albany attendance last time was about 2500/3500
Wooster was 6000/2800
Colorado was 2000/5000
allentown was 2000/3000

PSU in Allentown and winning Attendance 7K this year

Teams/locations/ and playing the fri/sat games all help attendance.

I guess the sites are set for a few years, but I think one of the western sites should bit to host two regionals in the same year, one Thu/Sat and one Fri/Sun; then you can boost the attendance of the "middle" two days by capturing the fans that are otherwise waiting around in between their team's two games.  And for that matter, you'll probably convince more people to travel to the regionals in the first place knowing they don't have a day to kill out in Bison Crap, Montana or wherever the regional is being held.

This. I favor two super regional sites that are as fixed as possible year to year. Make the conferences host so there's no PSU type issues. Make it easy for fans to plan and develop traditions year over year. And guarantee eastern conference champs stay in one of the two east brackets and west champs stay west. Make it more worth the fans' while to take a Thursday and Friday off and still give coaches the rest day they want. First game at five on Thursday and Sunday final at noon.

The only reason I made the East/West distinction is that when the two eastern regionals are in, say Worcester and Providence, fans can easily drive from one site to the other anyway.  Not so much with Allentown and Manchester, though.

upprdeck

Games vs practice time vs hotels all becomes an issue if you have 8 teams floating around an area.

Chris '03

Quote from: upprdeckGames vs practice time vs hotels all becomes an issue if you have 8 teams floating around an area.

Yes. But let me dream.

They made it work with six per regional...
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Tcl123

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: upprdeckGames vs practice time vs hotels all becomes an issue if you have 8 teams floating around an area.

Yes. But let me dream.

They made it work with six per regional...

There definitely are places that could handle it. Between nhl arenas, nhl practice arenas, their minor league affiliates, colleges, etc. Could Ithaca handle it? probably not. But, maybe with exception of hotel rooms, Albany prob could.

Weder

Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: upprdeckGames vs practice time vs hotels all becomes an issue if you have 8 teams floating around an area.

Yes. But let me dream.

They made it work with six per regional...

There definitely are places that could handle it. Between nhl arenas, nhl practice arenas, their minor league affiliates, colleges, etc. Could Ithaca handle it? probably not. But, maybe with exception of hotel rooms, Albany prob could.

Isn't the real bottleneck is getting practice time on the ice surface that the games will be played on? Can't imagine teams would go for getting time only on a practice rink somewhere, and getting 8 teams onto the actual arena ice is going to make a few teams unhappy about an early or late timeslot.
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