2024-25 Players Graduating

Started by stereax, March 29, 2025, 07:32:14 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

BearLover

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: BearLoverGuess we should have made the frozen four while we had the chance. Jesus Christ

Yup, every single one of those boys who didn't give it their all must really feel that egg on their faces.
I didn't say that, obviously, but you already know that.

stereax

A meme in these trying times? :-D
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

scoop85

Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)

stereax

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

scoop85

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!

So what else do you come up with to keep yourself distracted during Civ Pro? :-)

Beeeej

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!

So what else do you come up with to keep yourself distracted during Civ Pro? :-)

Am I the only dork who found Civ Pro fascinating?

I also find Non-Disclosure Agreements fascinating, but I'm not allowed to tell you why.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

scoop85

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!

So what else do you come up with to keep yourself distracted during Civ Pro? :-)

Am I the only dork who found Civ Pro fascinating?

I also find Non-Disclosure Agreements fascinating, but I'm not allowed to tell you why.

In fairness Civ Pro was one of my favorite 1L courses. Now contracts on the other hand ... (mostly due to an awful professor rather than the subject matter).

Dafatone

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!

So what else do you come up with to keep yourself distracted during Civ Pro? :-)

Am I the only dork who found Civ Pro fascinating?

I also find Non-Disclosure Agreements fascinating, but I'm not allowed to tell you why.

In fairness Civ Pro was one of my favorite 1L courses. Now contracts on the other hand ... (mostly due to an awful professor rather than the subject matter).

Property was my favorite subject and my worst grade. Grumble grumble.

stereax

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!

So what else do you come up with to keep yourself distracted during Civ Pro? :-)

Am I the only dork who found Civ Pro fascinating?

I also find Non-Disclosure Agreements fascinating, but I'm not allowed to tell you why.

In fairness Civ Pro was one of my favorite 1L courses. Now contracts on the other hand ... (mostly due to an awful professor rather than the subject matter).

Property was my favorite subject and my worst grade. Grumble grumble.
HAHAHA. My favorite 1L class was Torts. All of this semester's core classes (civpro, crimlaw, property) are going directly through my ears. I don't know how I'm gonna figure out the finals. (That being said, EU conlaw fucking rocks. Just so you don't think I'm an absolute basket case of a law student. I'm somewhat functional!)

To answer more directly: ELynah, Discord, CapSized, Board Game Arena. Between those four I can burn entire days.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

jkahn

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverWhat the fuck? Is he flunking out of school or something? Does he hate Casey? This is impossible to explain. This team is winning absolutely nothing next season now. 10 players graduate, and then two of the remaining best three players on the team leave (at minimum). Put a fork in them.
it's not impossible to explain any more than it's impossible to explain "NIL" - i think it is much more likely that he is leaving for someplace that will give him a scholarship+$ than that he is dissatisfied with the coach or the program or the ILR curriculum. i suspect he was under-recruited and over-performed expectations.

this feeds into a different one of your fears but i think this is the more founded one: we are going to have a hard time competing in a more professionalized environment. We already have one hand tied behind our back on scholarships, ameliorated a little by the prestige of the degree (though that is crumbling in the market as well); this is definitely going to be a long-term drag on Ivy competitiveness.
There's almost no NIL money in college hockey at the moment.

But yes, the program will no longer be competitive nationally if NIL becomes a thing.

I'm pretty sure NIL is a bigger thing than you realize.  I have a friend who has two baseball-playing sons and is familiar with BIG Ten baseball and NIL - and there's decent (100K ish) money out there for better players.  Also, many high school baseball draft choices that used to turn pro are now going to college so they can make more money than in the low minor leagues.  I suspect if it's true for baseball. it's true for hockey.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

BearLover

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverWhat the fuck? Is he flunking out of school or something? Does he hate Casey? This is impossible to explain. This team is winning absolutely nothing next season now. 10 players graduate, and then two of the remaining best three players on the team leave (at minimum). Put a fork in them.
it's not impossible to explain any more than it's impossible to explain "NIL" - i think it is much more likely that he is leaving for someplace that will give him a scholarship+$ than that he is dissatisfied with the coach or the program or the ILR curriculum. i suspect he was under-recruited and over-performed expectations.

this feeds into a different one of your fears but i think this is the more founded one: we are going to have a hard time competing in a more professionalized environment. We already have one hand tied behind our back on scholarships, ameliorated a little by the prestige of the degree (though that is crumbling in the market as well); this is definitely going to be a long-term drag on Ivy competitiveness.
There's almost no NIL money in college hockey at the moment.

But yes, the program will no longer be competitive nationally if NIL becomes a thing.

I'm pretty sure NIL is a bigger thing than you realize.  I have a friend who has two baseball-playing sons and is familiar with BIG Ten baseball and NIL - and there's decent (100K ish) money out there for better players.  Also, many high school baseball draft choices that used to turn pro are now going to college so they can make more money than in the low minor leagues.  I suspect if it's true for baseball. it's true for hockey.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/nil-money-ncaa.html

This article suggests NIL for hockey is negligible. Not negligible for the top baseball players, though.

I'd be very surprised if Robertson left for NIL. I don't know if it will become a big player in college hockey. It doesn't appear to be at the moment. If it does become a big player, Cornell will have to adapt with its own NIL fund, or it will die.

scoop85

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!

So what else do you come up with to keep yourself distracted during Civ Pro? :-)

Am I the only dork who found Civ Pro fascinating?

I also find Non-Disclosure Agreements fascinating, but I'm not allowed to tell you why.

In fairness Civ Pro was one of my favorite 1L courses. Now contracts on the other hand ... (mostly due to an awful professor rather than the subject matter).

Property was my favorite subject and my worst grade. Grumble grumble.
HAHAHA. My favorite 1L class was Torts. All of this semester's core classes (civpro, crimlaw, property) are going directly through my ears. I don't know how I'm gonna figure out the finals. (That being said, EU conlaw fucking rocks. Just so you don't think I'm an absolute basket case of a law student. I'm somewhat functional!)

To answer more directly: ELynah, Discord, CapSized, Board Game Arena. Between those four I can burn entire days.

It's got to be far more challenging staying focused as a student these days with all the distractions. When I was in LS in the mid-80's my primary distraction was on football Sundays hanging out at the guard desk in the lobby of the law school building watching whatever NFL game was on the guard's tiny TV on his desk. I have no idea how I would stay on task in today's environment given the choice between reading case books and obsessively checking Elynah, Fanlax, etc.

Dafatone

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: stereaxA meme in these trying times? :-D

Did you come up with that during Civ Pro? ;-)
During my lunch break, actually ;) Civ Pro is earlier in the morning!

So what else do you come up with to keep yourself distracted during Civ Pro? :-)

Am I the only dork who found Civ Pro fascinating?

I also find Non-Disclosure Agreements fascinating, but I'm not allowed to tell you why.

In fairness Civ Pro was one of my favorite 1L courses. Now contracts on the other hand ... (mostly due to an awful professor rather than the subject matter).

Property was my favorite subject and my worst grade. Grumble grumble.
HAHAHA. My favorite 1L class was Torts. All of this semester's core classes (civpro, crimlaw, property) are going directly through my ears. I don't know how I'm gonna figure out the finals. (That being said, EU conlaw fucking rocks. Just so you don't think I'm an absolute basket case of a law student. I'm somewhat functional!)

To answer more directly: ELynah, Discord, CapSized, Board Game Arena. Between those four I can burn entire days.

It's got to be far more challenging staying focused as a student these days with all the distractions. When I was in LS in the mid-80's my primary distraction was on football Sundays hanging out at the guard desk in the lobby of the law school building watching whatever NFL game was on the guard's tiny TV on his desk. I have no idea how I would stay on task in today's environment given the choice between reading case books and obsessively checking Elynah, Fanlax, etc.

It's not easy. But all the other students are similarly distracted, too.

upprdeck

a little bit of NIL and a scholie is still pretty good money.

Big Dingus

A Cornell degree vs a Michigan state degree also barely matters anymore.

Most of the country now hates the ivys and kids don't really value education as much as going to a big school to drink and watch football