2024-25 Players Graduating

[BearLover]

A Cornell degree vs a Michigan state degree also barely matters anymore.

Most of the country now hates the ivys and kids don't really value education as much as going to a big school to drink and watch football

You'd know this is not true at all if you've ever been involved in applying to/hiring for a white collar job

[Big Dingus]

A Cornell degree vs a Michigan state degree also barely matters anymore.

Most of the country now hates the ivys and kids don't really value education as much as going to a big school to drink and watch football

You'd know this is not true at all if you've ever been involved in applying to/hiring for a white collar job

Look at the trends and where they are going. Matters much less.

Look at investment banks for example, hire way more people from state schools now.

[BearLover]

A Cornell degree vs a Michigan state degree also barely matters anymore.

Most of the country now hates the ivys and kids don't really value education as much as going to a big school to drink and watch football

You'd know this is not true at all if you've ever been involved in applying to/hiring for a white collar job

Look at the trends and where they are going. Matters much less.

Look at investment banks for example, hire way more people from state schools now.

No they don't. If Robertson is a decent student he's practically guaranteed a high paying white collar job with a Cornell degree, whereas he's zero percent to get one with a Michigan State degree (to use your example). Look at where Cornell hockey grads are working and you'll see it's an utterly different universe compared to grads of lesser academic schools.

[chimpfood]

I don't think it's crazy to be very concerned at this point. Losing your coach and 12 players is the type of thing that can be detrimental to a program's long term prospects, not just our competitiveness for the next couple years. Especially for a team like us that doesn't get high end draft picks and talent, culture is key and that can be lost when you lose your coach and half your team. Don't get me wrong, I'm hopeful that we can get past this and even be competitive for the ECAC next year but this is a major inflection point for the long term prospects of the team and it hurts to see important pieces bailing.

[Trotsky]

Concern about next season: absolutely. We are going to struggle replacing so much talent, and though we knew that was coming Bancroft and Robertson now add another two key slots.  We may be looking at a couple seasons in 8th.

Concern about immediate recruiting: maybe.  It is an enormous coaching change and you know Rand et al. are out there pouring poison into the ears of every parent that Cornell has lost its main asset.

Concern about the tarnishing of the Ivies: pfft.  Yes, a bunch of asshats hate the Ivies because of political dementia, but their kids were never getting in anyway.  Admission standards taketh but they also giveth.  God bless gatekeeping.

Concern about the professionalization of college athletics finally being overt after 100 years of it being hidden hurting Cornell: zero.  We have tons of rich infantile NYC and LI dipshit alumni who will pony up millions to win the (limp) dick swinging contest at the yacht club.  Even if Day Hall never gets the memo the "student"-athlete con is finally dead, we'll be better than fine.  Plutocracy works for us.

[BearLover]

this is a major inflection point for the long term prospects of the team and it hurts to see important pieces bailing.

Robertson was THE most important piece. Cornell will likely have Walsh and Castagna for only one more season (though now even having them for one more season is in doubt). Robertson was going to be one of the best two players on the team next year and the best player the following year. This is a nuke to our chances the next two seasons. I'm still shocked it happened, Robertson was getting the most playing time on the team, he was on the first PP unit, the team won two league championships and was one goal from the frozen four in his two seasons. And that's to say nothing of the relationships he made at Cornell or the academic aspect. Honestly just stunning. It's amazing how much things have shifted since the Mack goal against MSU.

[BearLover]

Concern about the professionalization of college athletics finally being overt after 100 years of it being hidden hurting Cornell: zero.  We have tons of rich infantile NYC and LI dipshit alumni who will pony up millions to win the (limp) dick swinging contest at the yacht club.  Even if Day Hall never gets the memo the "student"-athlete con is finally dead, we'll be better than fine.  Plutocracy works for us.

Huh? What are you even saying here? Where's the NIL collective if the rich LI dipshits are down to spend so much money on the program?

[ER]

this is a major inflection point for the long term prospects of the team and it hurts to see important pieces bailing.

Robertson was THE most important piece. Cornell will likely have Walsh and Castagna for only one more season (though now even having them for one more season is in doubt). Robertson was going to be one of the best two players on the team next year and the best player the following year. This is a nuke to our chances the next two seasons. I'm still shocked it happened, Robertson was getting the most playing time on the team, he was on the first PP unit, the team won two league championships and was one goal from the frozen four in his two seasons. And that's to say nothing of the relationships he made at Cornell or the academic aspect. Honestly just stunning. It's amazing how much things have shifted since the Mack goal against MSU.

Yeah what is he looking for? Where does he think he's going to have it better than at Cornell?

[Dafatone]

this is a major inflection point for the long term prospects of the team and it hurts to see important pieces bailing.

Robertson was THE most important piece. Cornell will likely have Walsh and Castagna for only one more season (though now even having them for one more season is in doubt). Robertson was going to be one of the best two players on the team next year and the best player the following year. This is a nuke to our chances the next two seasons. I'm still shocked it happened, Robertson was getting the most playing time on the team, he was on the first PP unit, the team won two league championships and was one goal from the frozen four in his two seasons. And that's to say nothing of the relationships he made at Cornell or the academic aspect. Honestly just stunning. It's amazing how much things have shifted since the Mack goal against MSU.

Yeah what is he looking for? Where does he think he's going to have it better than at Cornell?

It could be all sorts of things. Maybe he needs more sunlight or wants to be closer to home or who knows what else.

It might not be a purely hockey decision.

[pjd8]

I know the exodus is depressing right now. Transitions suck, and this year is a big transition for the program.

But there's also reason for hope. Here's how Clarkson and Cornell finished in the ECAC standings during the 13 years Casey was head coach at Clarkson:

Year   Clkson   Cornell Cornell +/-
2024   5   2   3
2023   6   3   3
2022   2   4   -2
2021   2      
2020   2   1   1
2019   3   1   2
2018   3   1   2
2017   6   3   3
2016   5   7   -2
2015   8   7   1
2014   5   4   1
2013   9   10   -1
2012   7   2   5
      Total:   16
      Per Year:1.33

So, if Casey gets the same performance out of Cornell that he did out of Clarkson, we'll be, on average, one or two places below where Schafer would have had us.

Do we really think that Casey can do no better in Ithaca than he did in Potsdam, with all the resources, traditions, and support that he'll have at his disposal at Cornell?

Casey's got a bigger hill to climb than Schafe did with all the changes college sports are going through. Maybe the program declines because of outside forces, rather than internal effort. Maybe the current exodus puts us in a hole that we can't climb out of.

Or maybe the exodus means that we have fewer players lamenting the end of the "glory days" of the Schafer program and more players who come in, excited that, even as freshmen, they are going to have lots of opportunity to contribute, and all get so much ice time together, that by the time they become seniors, they are going to be such a well-oiled machine that the exceed all expectations.

And maybe not. But with no expectations, every win is going to be awesome. I'm looking forward to that.

[BearLover]

Concern about the professionalization of college athletics finally being overt after 100 years of it being hidden hurting Cornell: zero.  We have tons of rich infantile NYC and LI dipshit alumni who will pony up millions to win the (limp) dick swinging contest at the yacht club.  Even if Day Hall never gets the memo the "student"-athlete con is finally dead, we'll be better than fine.  Plutocracy works for us.

Huh? What are you even saying here? Where's the NIL collective if the rich LI dipshits are down to spend so much money on the program?

Still wondering about this. Is Trotsky starting an NIL collective?

[VIEWfromK]

Joe Miller of Harvard was drafted by the Leafs and has been Harvard's best player several years in a row, but is returning for his senior year and was just named captain of the team. I'm sure he had a deal on the table to go pro, but he decided he'd rather finish the job. The fact Bancroft took the money instead is just the reality, it doesn't make him a bad person or worse than the many other players who did the same thing. But he could have stayed and it's a shame he didn't.

I think Bancroft had a better chance of sticking around for his senior year if he had previously been drafted.  There have been many guys who return for their senior year at Harvard so that their NHL rights lapse and they become free agents.

[Weder]

Kyler Kovich landed at Minnesota-Duluth. https://www.northernnewsnow.com/2025/04/09/bulldogs-mens-hockey-team-loses-goalie-adds-three-forwards-through-transfer-portal/

[stereax]

Kyler Kovich landed at Minnesota-Duluth. https://www.northernnewsnow.com/2025/04/09/bulldogs-mens-hockey-team-loses-goalie-adds-three-forwards-through-transfer-portal/

Best of luck to him!

[stereax]

Still no news on Rayhill, Penney, Psenicka?