A LOOK AHEAD

Started by Redpucks1!, March 26, 2025, 10:20:43 AM

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Redpucks1!

https://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2025/3/26/24394160/preview-bruins-wrap-up-west-coast-swing-with-a-visit-to-anaheim-bruins-draft-pick?commentID=2da05673-b2d3-4f6a-baa4-93eefd0c1fbb

My apologies - I'm not very tech savvy. Hopefully this link came through okay.  
I'm a Boston Bruins fan and was reading the Stanley Cup of Chowder fan forum.  Sounds like Dalton Bancroft is generating a lot of interest from pro teams. Seeing Haymes, Prokop, Taylor, etc sign pro contracts after their junior year makes me worry that we may lose some players before they've used up their eligibility.  Traditionally Cornell has been good with holding onto their guys.  Barron and Malinski obviously stayed all four years.  I believe Nash and Greening did too.  Even going back to Matt Moulson and Douglas Murray, I believe they stayed.  I know I'm extremely biased but I think the draw of playing at Cornell is just different than other schools.  A packed Lynah Rink for every home game, a full MSG every single year and more Cornell fans than home fans at opposing teams rinks.  I'm hopeful that our guys realize what a great thing they have at CU!
Sorry about the depressing post before such a big game tomorrow.  Just wanted to share.

BearLover

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My apologies - I'm not very tech savvy. Hopefully this link came through okay.  
I'm a Boston Bruins fan and was reading the Stanley Cup of Chowder fan forum.  Sounds like Dalton Bancroft is generating a lot of interest from pro teams. Seeing Haymes, Prokop, Taylor, etc sign pro contracts after their junior year makes me worry that we may lose some players before they've used up their eligibility.  Traditionally Cornell has been good with holding onto their guys.  Barron and Malinski obviously stayed all four years.  I believe Nash and Greening did too.  Even going back to Matt Moulson and Douglas Murray, I believe they stayed.  I know I'm extremely biased but I think the draw of playing at Cornell is just different than other schools.  A packed Lynah Rink for every home game, a full MSG every single year and more Cornell fans than home fans at opposing teams rinks.  I'm hopeful that our guys realize what a great thing they have at CU!
Sorry about the depressing post before such a big game tomorrow.  Just wanted to share.
Greening, Moulson, Murray (late round picks) stayed all four years
Nash (1st round pick) stayed three years
Barron (late round pick) stayed three years, but he was on campus for his senior year and left when it became clear the Ivies would cancel the season for COVID. Possible he would have left anyway, but that made his decision clear. Same for Alex Green (fourth round pick)

Bancroft is different from those players in that he wasn't drafted, so he may have more teams coming after him than just his draft team. Still, isn't the source for this some random guy on an Internet comments section?

BearLover


Redpucks1!

Thanks Bear.
It is some random guy but I check Stanley Cup of Chowder daily right after looking through the elynah forum.  This guy is pretty dialed in with prospects, draft picks, free agents, etc.  I give his take a good amount of credibility though I hope he's wrong in this case.
I know Cornell loses a lot to graduation this year but if everyone returns combined with some excellent recruits (very excited about Veillieux and Pirtle) I think they'll be a contender in the ECAC once again.  (Goaltending is the obvious question mark next season).

VIEWfromK

The coaching change might play into some decisions as well.  Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different.  I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists.  Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger.  It will be interesting.

BearLover

Quote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well.  Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different.  I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists.  Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger.  It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.

chimpfood

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Quote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well.  Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different.  I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists.  Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger.  It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.

scoop85

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Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well.  Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different.  I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists.  Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger.  It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.

Bancroft's 24, so a guy that age may want to get his pro career going. He can finish 1 year of college without too much trouble.

BearLover

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Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well.  Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different.  I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists.  Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger.  It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.
I agree. I don't understand leaving for a minor league contract unless you think you're already dominant at the college level and don't have much more to learn/gain from staying put.

Bancroft is a great college player but he isn't going straight to the NHL so it will probably come down to him considering what's best for his development and how much he likes being a Cornell hockey player.

There have been a lot of early departures from other Ivies recently. For whatever that's worth.

VIEWfromK

Quote from: BearLoverThat pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.

Pro pedigree doesn't have to mean NHL pedigree.  You still require certain physical attributes to play professionally or all of us would have.  There are also plenty of players who have exceeded the accomplishments of their parents in the pro game.  While the dream is the NHL, you can have a terrific career playing in the minors or overseas and finish your degree at the same time or later in life.

dag14

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well.  Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different.  I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists.  Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger.  It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.

Bancroft's 24, so a guy that age may want to get his pro career going. He can finish 1 year of college without too much trouble.

Many of the guys who determine that they have a realistic chance of playing high level pro hockey plan their academic schedule to maximize the opportunity to graduate, if not in the 4 years at Cornell than at some point after leaving early.  Several of the players you name as staying for 4 years actually left after Cornell's season ended to play professionally.  They took INC's or enrolled in a lot of classes that finished after the first half of the semester in the spring of senior year.  

Since online courses proliferated, it is a lot easier to get a degree if the education is important to a player [and often, his/her parents].

Jim Hyla

Hopefully (For us) this quote is meaningful.

Quote"So, there was never really any pressure on me, and I've kept that same approach even now and through my whole college career. You gotta just enjoy the moment. College is four of the best years of your life, and that's when you meet your best friends," he continued. "Your classmates you come in with, your teammates you spend six or seven hours a day together, and that's an experience that you can't get anywhere else. So, I live by that every day. Just enjoy every day and put my friends and family first, and hopefully everything in the hockey world goes the right way."
Source: https://rg.org/news/hockey/bruins-amongst-a-handful-of-teams-interested-in-signing-cornells-dalton-bancroft
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ugarte

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Quote from: BearLoverThat pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.

Pro pedigree doesn't have to mean NHL pedigree.  You still require certain physical attributes to play professionally or all of us would have.  There are also plenty of players who have exceeded the accomplishments of their parents in the pro game.  While the dream is the NHL, you can have a terrific career playing in the minors or overseas and finish your degree at the same time or later in life.
idk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard

VIEWfromK

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idk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard[/quote]

Now wait a minute.  I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here

RichH

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Quote from: ugarteidk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard

Now wait a minute.  I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here

They dropped the eLynah entrance exam requirement about 8 years ago.