ECAC '25 semifinal Red vs. Q

Started by 617BigRed, March 17, 2025, 04:24:13 PM

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scoop85

Quote from: BearLoverFor those complaining about Pierre McGuire, I thought he was great. I mean, he was on the #1 NHL broadcasting team for a long time for a reason. Extremely knowledgeable and well-spoken. He offered interesting analysis throughout. Though he did say some strange things at times (eg. "That's an early goalie pull by Clarkson, doesn't mean it's wrong though" and then shortly later when Cornell scored "I said the pull was early, I didn't like it." And he kept harping on Skaneateles as one of the best vacation spots in NY.)

Yeah, no real gripes with MaGuire. I think we're fortunate to have him do those games.

andyw2100

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Quote from: Big DingusWhat will Bearlover complain about tonight?
The ESPN+ broadcast teed up the replays too late and lacked either the awareness or the technology to cut them off before play resumed. Several times over the course of the game, play began while viewers were still being show the replay of the prior play. The worst offense was the broadcast missing the opening seconds of the play that led to Cornell's miracle game-tying goal (the broadcast was still replaying Castagna's penalty).

I have the same gripe. We'll probably never know how that play developed, and it's still unfathomable to me that Q allowed us to get such an opportunity under that circumstance. For all of Rand's griping about the officiating, he should take a hard look in the mirror as to that brutal coaching mistake.

I posted the following in another thread, which one might think of as Schafer holding the mirror for him:

Here's a relatively minor dig at Pecknold from Schafer in the weekend recap he sent out this morning to whomever gets those. Talking about the short-handed goal:

"I couldn't believe they had four forwards on the ice because their coach had to know we would pull the goalie."

ugarte

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Quote from: BearLoverFor those complaining about Pierre McGuire, I thought he was great. I mean, he was on the #1 NHL broadcasting team for a long time for a reason. Extremely knowledgeable and well-spoken. He offered interesting analysis throughout. Though he did say some strange things at times (eg. "That's an early goalie pull by Clarkson, doesn't mean it's wrong though" and then shortly later when Cornell scored "I said the pull was early, I didn't like it." And he kept harping on Skaneateles as one of the best vacation spots in NY.)

Yeah, no real gripes with MaGuire. I think we're fortunate to have him do those games.
i thought mcguire was really good too. i had more of an issue with the other guy who kept getting simple factual things wrong. even called us harvard once!

VIEWfromK

Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.


So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.

ugarte

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Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.


So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.
Sometimes it's hesitance, a lot of the time the passes are just BAD. I think all the time about how we pass to where the player *is* not where they want the puck - in front of them, where the stick blade is.

Dafatone

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Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.


So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.
Sometimes it's hesitance, a lot of the time the passes are just BAD. I think all the time about how we pass to where the player *is* not where they want the puck - in front of them, where the stick blade is.

Our powerplay doesn't seem to swap handedness at the point like some do, so we have a right-handed shot at right D and left at left D, resulting in more difficult one timers.

scoop85

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Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.


So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.
Sometimes it's hesitance, a lot of the time the passes are just BAD. I think all the time about how we pass to where the player *is* not where they want the puck - in front of them, where the stick blade is.

Spot on. It was almost miraculous that the pass to Rego on Friday and the passes to Psenicka and Desantis on Saturday were perfectly placed. The only other time I remember such a well placed pass this season was Walsh's pass to Bancroft at MSG for the 2 on 0 SHG.

arugula

Quote from: BearLoverFor those complaining about Pierre McGuire, I thought he was great. I mean, he was on the #1 NHL broadcasting team for a long time for a reason. Extremely knowledgeable and well-spoken. He offered interesting analysis throughout. Though he did say some strange things at times (eg. "That's an early goalie pull by Clarkson, doesn't mean it's wrong though" and then shortly later when Cornell scored "I said the pull was early, I didn't like it." And he kept harping on Skaneateles as one of the best vacation spots in NY.)

He's all those things but he's so in love with his name dropping and showing how much he knows that he ignores the game.  He failed to notice four forwards on the ice for Q at the end.  The stupid comments about Harvard graduates.  Watch the f-ing game. Enough about Doc and Shattuck St. Mary's

arugula

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Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLoverFor those complaining about Pierre McGuire, I thought he was great. I mean, he was on the #1 NHL broadcasting team for a long time for a reason. Extremely knowledgeable and well-spoken. He offered interesting analysis throughout. Though he did say some strange things at times (eg. "That's an early goalie pull by Clarkson, doesn't mean it's wrong though" and then shortly later when Cornell scored "I said the pull was early, I didn't like it." And he kept harping on Skaneateles as one of the best vacation spots in NY.)

Yeah, no real gripes with MaGuire. I think we're fortunate to have him do those games.
i thought mcguire was really good too. i had more of an issue with the other guy who kept getting simple factual things wrong. even called us harvard once!

The pbp was bad. Ahfeld would've been better.

arugula

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.



So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.
Sometimes it's hesitance, a lot of the time the passes are just BAD. I think all the time about how we pass to where the player *is* not where they want the puck - in front of them, where the stick blade is.

Spot on. It was almost miraculous that the pass to Rego on Friday and the passes to Psenicka and Desantis on Saturday were perfectly placed. The only other time I remember such a well placed pass this season was Walsh's pass to Bancroft at MSG for the 2 on 0 SHG.

Malinski was a master of this.

Jeff Hopkins '82

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLoverFor those complaining about Pierre McGuire, I thought he was great. I mean, he was on the #1 NHL broadcasting team for a long time for a reason. Extremely knowledgeable and well-spoken. He offered interesting analysis throughout. Though he did say some strange things at times (eg. "That's an early goalie pull by Clarkson, doesn't mean it's wrong though" and then shortly later when Cornell scored "I said the pull was early, I didn't like it." And he kept harping on Skaneateles as one of the best vacation spots in NY.)

Yeah, no real gripes with MaGuire. I think we're fortunate to have him do those games.
i thought mcguire was really good too. i had more of an issue with the other guy who kept getting simple factual things wrong. even called us harvard once!

The pbp was bad. Ahfeld would've been better.

Pretty much all sports PBP is crap.  They're all about showing off, not about describing the game.

andyw2100

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.


So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.
Sometimes it's hesitance, a lot of the time the passes are just BAD. I think all the time about how we pass to where the player *is* not where they want the puck - in front of them, where the stick blade is.

Spot on. It was almost miraculous that the pass to Rego on Friday and the passes to Psenicka and Desantis on Saturday were perfectly placed. The only other time I remember such a well placed pass this season was Walsh's pass to Bancroft at MSG for the 2 on 0 SHG.

The great thing about the pass from Bancroft to Rego for the game winning goal on Friday was that it was just fast enough to get there with the goalie still out of position, but slow enough for Rego to be able to one-time it with a high probability of success. Bancroft easily could have sent it over towards Rego with a lot more pace on it, which would have made it much harder to successfully one-time. Taking just a bit off the pass was a really high-hockey IQ move.

Chris H82

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Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.


So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.
Sometimes it's hesitance, a lot of the time the passes are just BAD. I think all the time about how we pass to where the player *is* not where they want the puck - in front of them, where the stick blade is.

Spot on. It was almost miraculous that the pass to Rego on Friday and the passes to Psenicka and Desantis on Saturday were perfectly placed. The only other time I remember such a well placed pass this season was Walsh's pass to Bancroft at MSG for the 2 on 0 SHG.

The great thing about the pass from Bancroft to Rego for the game winning goal on Friday was that it was just fast enough to get there with the goalie still out of position, but slow enough for Rego to be able to one-time it with a high probability of success. Bancroft easily could have sent it over towards Rego with a lot more pace on it, which would have made it much harder to successfully one-time. Taking just a bit off the pass was a really high-hockey IQ move.

Yeah, watching that side-view video that someone had posted earlier, I was struck by how calmly Bancroft made that pass. He wasn't slow about it, but no sense of fluster or anticpation. Kind of like a traffic cop waving cars through an intersection - be efficient about it.
"What... is your favorite color?"  "Blue. No, yel--auuuuugh!"

marty

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Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: BearLoverI agree, that has been my absolute biggest pet peeve all year as well. Way too much hesitating, particularly on the PP.


So many times throughout the season it felt like a guy would get into a shooting position on the power play like Rego and then would pull back and reset.  Thankfully he had that shooting mentality.
Sometimes it's hesitance, a lot of the time the passes are just BAD. I think all the time about how we pass to where the player *is* not where they want the puck - in front of them, where the stick blade is.

Spot on. It was almost miraculous that the pass to Rego on Friday and the passes to Psenicka and Desantis on Saturday were perfectly placed. The only other time I remember such a well placed pass this season was Walsh's pass to Bancroft at MSG for the 2 on 0 SHG.

The great thing about the pass from Bancroft to Rego for the game winning goal on Friday was that it was just fast enough to get there with the goalie still out of position, but slow enough for Rego to be able to one-time it with a high probability of success. Bancroft easily could have sent it over towards Rego with a lot more pace on it, which would have made it much harder to successfully one-time. Taking just a bit off the pass was a really high-hockey IQ move.

Yeah, watching that side-view video that someone had posted earlier, I was struck by how calmly Bancroft made that pass. He wasn't slow about it, but no sense of fluster or anticpation. Kind of like a traffic cop waving cars through an intersection - be efficient about it.

As much as I loved the ECAC posted highlights for Saturday's game I was less than satisfied with Friday's highlights.  I spent some time this afternoon to save a longer set of clips as a better collection of highlights!!
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

arugula

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLoverFor those complaining about Pierre McGuire, I thought he was great. I mean, he was on the #1 NHL broadcasting team for a long time for a reason. Extremely knowledgeable and well-spoken. He offered interesting analysis throughout. Though he did say some strange things at times (eg. "That's an early goalie pull by Clarkson, doesn't mean it's wrong though" and then shortly later when Cornell scored "I said the pull was early, I didn't like it." And he kept harping on Skaneateles as one of the best vacation spots in NY.)

Yeah, no real gripes with MaGuire. I think we're fortunate to have him do those games.
i thought mcguire was really good too. i had more of an issue with the other guy who kept getting simple factual things wrong. even called us harvard once!

The pbp was bad. Ahfeld would've been better.

Pretty much all sports PBP is crap.  They're all about showing off, not about describing the game.

Many are bad but not all. Jason is excellent.  Pierre's pal Doc was the GOAT. That guy at Colgate was not bad.