1/4 vs. ASU

[Trotsky]

Trotsky - what has this team done this year to make you believe that they will come back and win this game? Because I haven't seen anything convincing AT ALL that would make me believe they can beat a team like ASU.

I know throwing in the towel is unwarranted.  They play solid for stretches.  They have intervals where every shift is better than the opponent, and they set up good chances.

If you can do that, then you can do it more. Winning consists of doing it enough over 60 minutes to outscore the opponent.

They have it in them.  Overdetermining your assessment of the team by its very worst events and mistakes is petulant and invalid.  Doing so repeatedly is not a statement about the team; it's a psychological declaration of fragility.  

If this hurts so much, turn it off.  Please.  It's bad enough when the opponent scores not to endure your predestined suicide note immediately after.

[Trotsky]

I wonder if ASU's Ryan Kirwan is related to this guy.

Born 2/27/02 in DeWitt, NY.  Also attended Taft.

[arugula]

Trotsky - what has this team done this year to make you believe that they will come back and win this game? Because I haven't seen anything convincing AT ALL that would make me believe they can beat a team like ASU.

Were you watching last night?

[Trotsky]

Do these games count as road games? I'm worried they're somehow "neutral" for RPI purposes.

That is an excellent question.

[Trotsky]

I wonder if ASU's Ryan Kirwan is related to this guy.

Born 2/27/02 in DeWitt, NY.  Also attended Taft.

Brother Luke 11/23/97.  Hmm...
Brother Matt 11/07/99
Sister Lauren (somehow, not Mary) 7/26/93, so unless Ryan Senior was precocious I assume we are talking nephew.

[TimV]

From his bio on last year's Penn State site:

"Son of Patty and Terry Kirwan...Is the youngest of four with two older brothers Luke and Matthew and an older sister Lauren...Sister, Lauren, played division I ice hockey at Minnesota State and UNH...Brother, Luke, was a product of the USNTDP and played four years of major junior hockey in the Ontario Hockey League before enrolling at the University of Prince Edward Island where he played two seasons...Majoring in recreation, park and tourism management."

[Big Dingus]

One game? And I'm watching tonight. It's 3-0

[Trotsky]

On top of everything else, what is this piece of shit remake of the song?

[scoop85]

An unforced icing leads to an atrocious defensive zone sequence and ultimately a 3rd ASU goal. Probably too big a hill to climb.

[Big Dingus]

Well, almost time to turn it off.

Cornell historically has never got beat badly by similar pairwise teams like this and for some reason this year is different. It feels different and it is different.

I don't know if it's the coach or whatever, but having this many returnees and losing so many games really is shocking. What is going on? Can we finally panic?

[chimpfood]

ASU had like 4 scoring chances on that possession but that's another one that Shane should have. He has been really disappointing this season. I was never fully bought in on him being as good as his stats over the last couple years (I mean the guy is like 5 foot 11 and Schafer really did not want to start him his freshman year), but I was starting to believe and this is kind of killing my hope. Gotta give keopple a few starts over the rest of the year to at least prepare us for next year.

[scoop85]

Well, almost time to turn it off.

Cornell historically has never got beat badly by similar pairwise teams like this and for some reason this year is different. It feels different and it is different.

I don't know if it's the coach or whatever, but having this many returnees and losing so many games really is shocking. What is going on? Can we finally panic?

Sadly, I am becoming bearish on the season. Shane seems to have taken a step back, and Seeger's departure combined with some of the injuries has left a hole offensively that we don't seem to have been able to overcome. We can still make hay in the ECAC, but it doesn't seem likely.

[arugula]

ASU had like 4 scoring chances on that possession but that's another one that Shane should have. He has been really disappointing this season. I was never fully bought in on him being as good as his stats over the last couple years (I mean the guy is like 5 foot 11 and Schafer really did not want to start him his freshman year), but I was starting to believe and this is kind of killing my hope. Gotta give keopple a few starts over the rest of the year to at least prepare us for next year.

Been ringing that bell for three years. Shane is quick but very small. Having been next to him a few times I'd say closer to 5'9".  He's benefited enormously from the system which has suffered this year. To his credit he has had numerous games over the last three years where he faced pressure and bore up very well.  Mostly he had a lot of 12 shot nights. This year, he's been consistently under pressure and mileage varies.

[Big Dingus]

Well, almost time to turn it off.

Cornell historically has never got beat badly by similar pairwise teams like this and for some reason this year is different. It feels different and it is different.

I don't know if it's the coach or whatever, but having this many returnees and losing so many games really is shocking. What is going on? Can we finally panic?

Sadly, I am becoming bearish on the season. Shane seems to have taken a step back, and Seeger's departure combined with some of the injuries has left a hole offensively that we don't seem to have been able to overcome. We can still make hay in the ECAC, but it doesn't seem likely.

I just don't understand. Why is this happening? How can we fall so hard with barely any roster moves ?

[Dafatone]

For a guy whose puck skills are alright at best, Kempf sure loves calling for the puck.