Injury lists

Started by CJ, December 02, 2024, 08:45:17 AM

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CJ

Can anyone explain why injuries are not listed?  Is it a privacy thing?  The recent loss of Kyle Penny as well as the loss of others on the team has significantly altered
the prospects of the season.  I am sure there must be others wondering what gives? What can we expect? Any explanation for missing players is usually vague at best. Looking for some insight to boost my knowledge. Thanks in advance.

Dafatone

Quote from: CJCan anyone explain why injuries are not listed?  Is it a privacy thing?  The recent loss of Kyle Penny as well as the loss of others on the team has significantly altered
the prospects of the season.  I am sure there must be others wondering what gives? What can we expect? Any explanation for missing players is usually vague at best. Looking for some insight to boost my knowledge. Thanks in advance.

Hockey is notoriously vague about injuries because if the other team knows what body part is injured, you'll get a bunch of sticks to that body part. In the NHL, it's "upper body injury" or "lower body injury." If anything, it's even less specific in college hockey because there aren't as many forces demanding information.

In comparison, football is a similarly physical game, but we get more specifics about injuries because media/fantasy football/gambling demand it.

arugula

With the pros, there are also collective bargaining considerations about what information can be released.  With college, I suspect it's privacy and HIPAA concerns.

upprdeck

pros release info for gambling reasons. college does not

ugarte

College athlete injuries would be covered by at least HIPAA (which protects health records) and FERPA (which protects education records). When a player is out for the year, you probably get some disclosure but only with the consent of the student. Otherwise it would probably be as vague as "unlikely to return."

stereax

Will also note that sometimes you can "figure it out" in passing, like if you're in Ithaca and happen upon a hockey player in a walking boot. Or rewatch tape obsessively, or see it happen and figure from there. But no, you're not going to get any actual answers. For the better tbh.
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ugarte

Quote from: stereaxWill also note that sometimes you can "figure it out" in passing, like if you're in Ithaca and happen upon a hockey player in a walking boot. Or rewatch tape obsessively, or see it happen and figure from there. But no, you're not going to get any actual answers. For the better tbh.
welcome to the forum. every time someone reports seeing an athlete in a walking boot there are two pages of stupid debate over whether it is a HIPAA violation for a civilian to say they saw a thing in public.

stereax

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: stereaxWill also note that sometimes you can "figure it out" in passing, like if you're in Ithaca and happen upon a hockey player in a walking boot. Or rewatch tape obsessively, or see it happen and figure from there. But no, you're not going to get any actual answers. For the better tbh.
welcome to the forum. every time someone reports seeing an athlete in a walking boot there are two pages of stupid debate over whether it is a HIPAA violation for a civilian to say they saw a thing in public.
lmfao what. is it also a hipaa violation for me to update y'all from my seat behind the tunnel that casty's getting his shoulder wrapped up with bandages
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scoop85

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: stereaxWill also note that sometimes you can "figure it out" in passing, like if you're in Ithaca and happen upon a hockey player in a walking boot. Or rewatch tape obsessively, or see it happen and figure from there. But no, you're not going to get any actual answers. For the better tbh.
welcome to the forum. every time someone reports seeing an athlete in a walking boot there are two pages of stupid debate over whether it is a HIPAA violation for a civilian to say they saw a thing in public.
lmfao what. is it also a hipaa violation for me to update y'all from my seat behind the tunnel that casty's getting his shoulder wrapped up with bandages

It is not.

upprdeck

from the Hippa website

the role of coaches in personal development falls outside the scope of HIPAA compliance

Its only health care providers really.

TimV

How many rows up are you?  Must get some great audio as well.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

ugarte

Quote from: upprdeckfrom the Hippa website

the role of coaches in personal development falls outside the scope of HIPAA compliance

Its only health care providers really.
as i understand it, to the extent coaches are covered by hipaa it would be because of their connection to the team/school medical staff. they can probably speak in generalities ("showing improvement" "back in the weight room" etc.) but they wouldn't be able to talk specifics learned through their professional association. "personal development" is generalities.

dag14

As ugarte noted earlier, I am pretty sure that, since these coaches are university employees, whatever isn't required by HIPPA is required by FERPA.

stereax

Quote from: TimVHow many rows up are you?  Must get some great audio as well.
Me? I sit directly behind the tunnel, nine rows up in section C. Problem is my ears are shit and I can't always hear what's going on, especially when there are chants I can't make out. Have been privy to many a "FUCK" though :)
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upprdeck

Quote from: dag14As ugarte noted earlier, I am pretty sure that, since these coaches are university employees, whatever isn't required by HIPPA is required by FERPA.

Why would ferpa be involved for education records in this?