Cornell-Brown varsity football 10/26/24

[mike1960]

Watching the game-some observations:

It all comes down to execution-the missed pass on the 4th and 1 in the 1st qtr, the off target passes in the 2nd half-if the had pulled those off Cornell wins the game (IMO).
Also-the one overturned call-should that at least been defensive holding?  Also-there were a couple of borderline horse collar tackles on Wang (How do the officials define a horse collar tackle?)
Offensive Line could not create openings on traditional run plays and would not have mattered who carried the ball. Looked at total yardage and time of possession for Brown-the 4th quarter definitely a killer.

Agreed. The refs didn't call the egregious pass interference. If we scored there, the game may have been much different.

The bottom line is that we need to stop the run. Any defensive coordinator will say that's job one. Our d-linemen need to grab and rip and find the ball. You don't to be an NFL prospect to do the fundamentals.

LGR!!

[Swampy]

Watching the game-some observations:

It all comes down to execution-the missed pass on the 4th and 1 in the 1st qtr, the off target passes in the 2nd half-if the had pulled those off Cornell wins the game (IMO).
Also-the one overturned call-should that at least been defensive holding?  Also-there were a couple of borderline horse collar tackles on Wang (How do the officials define a horse collar tackle?)
Offensive Line could not create openings on traditional run plays and would not have mattered who carried the ball. Looked at total yardage and time of possession for Brown-the 4th quarter definitely a killer.

Agreed. The refs didn't call the egregious pass interference. If we scored there, the game may have been much different.

The bottom line is that we need to stop the run. Any defensive coordinator will say that's job one. Our d-linemen need to grab and rip and find the ball. You don't to be an NFL prospect to do the fundamentals.

LGR!!

I had the impression that we lost the game on our lines -- both offensive & defensive. Offensively, we couldn't run the ball, and Brown did a good job keeping our running backs bottled up. They also put substantial pressure on Wang when he tried to pass. Defensively, we couldn't stop Brown's running game during the second half. According to the Ivy League, we managed to rush for 58 yards, and Brown rushed for 214. Passing was a bit closer, with us gaining 265 yards, and Brown gaining 316.

The statistics are partly influenced by the 21-3 lead we established in the first half. Nonetheless, it's hard to view the statistics and not come away feeling that the better team won.

IIRC, at the game someone said we have the lightest offensive & defensive lines in the Ivy League. Can someone please confirm this?

It would be instructive to compare the weights and size of the offensive & defensive linemen on this year's team with that of the recruits reportedly coming next fall. We have to get bigger & stronger.

[Ken711]

Watching the game-some observations:

It all comes down to execution-the missed pass on the 4th and 1 in the 1st qtr, the off target passes in the 2nd half-if the had pulled those off Cornell wins the game (IMO).
Also-the one overturned call-should that at least been defensive holding?  Also-there were a couple of borderline horse collar tackles on Wang (How do the officials define a horse collar tackle?)
Offensive Line could not create openings on traditional run plays and would not have mattered who carried the ball. Looked at total yardage and time of possession for Brown-the 4th quarter definitely a killer.

Agreed. The refs didn't call the egregious pass interference. If we scored there, the game may have been much different.

The bottom line is that we need to stop the run. Any defensive coordinator will say that's job one. Our d-linemen need to grab and rip and find the ball. You don't to be an NFL prospect to do the fundamentals.

LGR!!

I had the impression that we lost the game on our lines -- both offensive & defensive. Offensively, we couldn't run the ball, and Brown did a good job keeping our running backs bottled up. They also put substantial pressure on Wang when he tried to pass. Defensively, we couldn't stop Brown's running game during the second half. According to the Ivy League, we managed to rush for 58 yards, and Brown rushed for 214. Passing was a bit closer, with us gaining 265 yards, and Brown gaining 316.

The statistics are partly influenced by the 21-3 lead we established in the first half. Nonetheless, it's hard to view the statistics and not come away feeling that the better team won.

IIRC, at the game someone said we have the lightest offensive & defensive lines in the Ivy League. Can someone please confirm this?

It would be instructive to compare the weights and size of the offensive & defensive linemen on this year's team with that of the recruits reportedly coming next fall. We have to get bigger & stronger.

I wouldn't say our OL is the smallest weight wise in the OL, but Cornell's DL most definitely is.  As for the DL recruits coming in, we have a 270 and a 320 pound DL recruits so far.

[mike1960]

You don't have to be a huge defensive lineman to be effective, although some size is critical. They have to have work on the proper techniques to shed the blocker, clog the lanes, and find the ball -- proper alignment, hips, hands, rip, all that stuff.

[Local Motion]

Similar to some of our other losses, Brown ran the ball for 218 yards and Cornell logged only 58 yards, with most of them coming from our Quarterback.  As a result we lost time of possession and our defense just tired out in the 2nd half.   Our three running backs combined rushing was only 8 carries for 17 yards.   Jameson Wang had a good day with 49 passing attempts for 299 yards, but statisticaly when you throw the ball that many times most teams lose the game. This was a winnable game with just a couple of rushing first downs in the second half would have burned enough clock and kept our defense off the field, and the score is 21-20 in favor of the Big Red.

If you look at the history of Cornell football, all three Ivy League titles (we only have three shared titles) were the result of a strong running game with guys like Marinaro, Malaga, and McNiff/Oliaro.   Ask any offensive lineman, it's a lot more fun to run block than pass block.  If you have less talent on the OL, it's also easier to run block than pass block.   It's not rocket science just football 101.  Go Big Red!