Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

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Jim Hyla

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: Jim HylaCHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

not finalized - just a placeholder.

Like other places you could put TBD or TBA as a placeholder.

That would be less confusing. At least to old guys like me, who try to believe what's written.

I try not to think of "alternative facts."
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaCan anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?
they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

adamw

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: Jim HylaCHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

not finalized - just a placeholder.

Like other places you could put TBD or TBA as a placeholder.

That would be less confusing. At least to old guys like me, who try to believe what's written.

I try not to think of "alternative facts."

I understand. It's a catch-22 to me, which is why I've always left it this way. In my mind, it's nice to know the times of the two games in general, even if they teams will be flipped. But I get how it can seem confusing.
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adamw

Quote from: pjd8A Cornell win (with other higher seeds winning) right now puts Q in 13, with Minnesota State right behind them. So Q at this point is probably safe with Minn St getting the CCHA bid and being in the top 16. Michigan (15) would lose out to the ECAC and Atlantic Hockey autobids.

There's multiple scenarios where, if Q loses the semi, it drops below Penn State, and so - say - Arizona State winning the NCHC - would knock Q out.
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stereax

Quote from: Jim HylaCan anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?
I brought it up, mea culpa. Came up in conversation with a friend that if we beat Q, Michigan almost assuredly slips out of the bubble. Given Michigan's program pedigree and how many NHL products they've cranked out over the past few years, that's intriguing as hell. Also, Ethan Edwards, for Devils fans like me and that friend.
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CU2007

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Jim HylaCHN has us at 7:30 for the second game.

If correct, that's nice for our fans, but surprises me. Would think that Q would want the early game.

Wouldn't put too much stock in that. CHN had all sorts of game times and dates wrong in the past few weeks - for example it showed us playing Yale on the Friday night until about Wednesday of that week.

edit - sorry I just realized what you meant.....

Times constantly change, which is why they are "wrong" -- when it comes to playoffs, teams change them constantly. Also, we get a feed from the NCAA's portal - which the teams are supposed to insert into and keep updated. And often they are different than what is on the team's web site. This week alone, I had to email 4 schools to ask about discrepancies. No other web site curator out there emails teams trying to make sure everything is correct, I assure you, whether that be schedules or stats.

We have an automated process that checks our stuff against the "official" portal - times, locations, dates, opponents, etc... I get a report every morning on what doesn't match. 99% of the time, the "official" portal is wrong and we're right.

I believe in the case of Cornell-Yale, they didn't know yet what date it would be. We had to put the game in system before knowing the date, in order to make everything else we do run properly -- Pairwise, Pairwise Customizer, Probability Matrix, etc...

Can't say we're never wrong - but barking up the wrong tree here. I can assure you we're the least wrong :)  our whole system depends upon it being right.

Sorry Adam - did not mean to imply CHN was lazy or negligent or anything like that - just that very early on the game times etc seem to function more as a placeholder than anything. Cheers

Tom Lento

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Quote from: Chris H82Clarkson with the win. We get Q.
How do we feel about Q, genuinely?
And Harvard still sucks. God bless.

I suspect it'll come down to whether or not Cornell stays out of the box.

My gut says a healthy and effective Cornell team will be better even strength, but if they were to trade penalties all game Q would have a huge advantage. They ended the RS with the best PP in the country.

chimpfood

Harvard loses their goalie Koskenvuo to the Canucks. Surprising because he really hasn't been that good. I'd imagine that Charette takes over for them next year, shouldn't be much of a drop off from Koskenvuo

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaCan anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?
they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.
They're fairly universally hated.  When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se.  Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality.  But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves.  I'm sure there are others.  I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

marty

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Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaCan anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?
they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.
They're fairly universally hated.  When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se.  Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality.  But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves.  I'm sure there are others.  I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

All of the damn Ivies!!  You aren't where you went to school.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

stereax

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaCan anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?
they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.
They're fairly universally hated.  When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se.  Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality.  But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves.  I'm sure there are others.  I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

All of the damn Ivies!!  You aren't where you went to school.
Except us... right? ;)
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Iceberg

Quote from: chimpfoodHarvard loses their goalie Koskenvuo to the Canucks. Surprising because he really hasn't been that good. I'd imagine that Charette takes over for them next year, shouldn't be much of a drop off from Koskenvuo

Yeah, very odd. It's not like he was all that good this season as you say. Maybe he had full intention of going pro somewhere (even outside NA) and just decided to take the option that presented itself now

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaCan anybody tell me why so many people care about whether Michigan makes the NCAAs?
they don't. they care about whether they can predict the pairwise outcomes. michigan is the team that happens to be on the bubble.

I think it's more than that. Michigan has come up on other occasions.

I'm not going to search back, but if it shows, I'll point it out.
They're fairly universally hated.  When a list of schools with alumni who have a ridiculous hyperbolic estimation of their school's academics comes around, you can guarantee that USC, Duke, Michigan, and Dartmouth will always be on it.

They aren't bad schools per se.  Michigan among those four is clearly the best in actuality.  But their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves.  I'm sure there are others.  I was going to include Notre Dame but that is more cultural overall than academic.

Thanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaThanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide
I didn't say it's justified. It's the Zeitgeist.  They say (and you know the sort of things They say) that Cornell "isn't even an Ivy."  Being dismissed by the Common Mind is not necessarily a bad thing.  Have you met it?

But USC truly sucks.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaThanks, it's nice to know how people feel about us.

Proud-Yes

Obnoxious-That's for you to decide
I didn't say it's justified. It's the Zeitgeist.  They say (and you know the sort of things They say) that Cornell "isn't even an Ivy."  Being dismissed by the Common Mind is not necessarily a bad thing.  Have you met it?

But USC truly sucks.

Quote from: TrotskyBut their alumni are just obnoxiously proud of themselves.

But you did say that you agree with them.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!