Recruits 2025 and Beyond

Started by scoop85, August 03, 2024, 11:44:05 PM

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BearLover

Our recruiting looks good in general BTW.

My worry is that the bar has been raised a lot due to CHL players becoming eligible. Guys averaging a point per game in the USHL still project to be good college players. But now opponents won't have a bunch of NAHL guys but rather CHL guys. So we need to improve our own recruiting at the same rate to keep up.

pfibiger

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: The RancorAlex Pelletier - son of JM Pelletier?
Alex born Grandy, CT Jun 01, 2005.  JHean-Marc was playing for Springfield, MA. Driving distance 24 miles.

Let's say 67% chance of yes.

Pretty sure it's no. In 2011 looks like he only had a daughter and she not yet college aged

https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2011/12/nhl-player-returns-cornell-finish-degree
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

BearLover

Looks like one recruit made the NHL Central Scouting Final Rankings: Gio DiGiulian at 132nd. Gio was on last year's list too but went undrafted. It doesn't seem too common for someone to make the list a second year after they went undrafted the first year, so Gio must have looked impressive in the USHL this season.

Cole Tuminaro dropped off the rankings after being injured the whole season. Awful luck for him. Maybe he will get another shot next year.

Even though having just one recruit on the list isn't great, I believe nobody born after 9/15/07 is eligible, so that excludes Kirkwood, Emerson, DiPlacido, Peckham, and Broderick. And then the rest of our recruits are mostly overeagers who were already eligible in one or more past years. Veilleux was already drafted. So it's not too surprising we don't have a great representation this year.

Still, I'd like to see recruiting pick up. William Moore, whose family attended Cornell and whose grandfather was a Cornell professor chose, BC over Cornell. He is 29th in the rankings.

CAS

With the addition of Vellieux & Fisher, we should have 7 drafted players on next year's team.  If DiGuilian gets drafted, we will have 8.  When was the last year Cornell had 8 or more draftees on the team?  Long, Pirtle, & Hiscock all had outstanding years, but assume are too old to be drafted.

BearLover

Quote from: CASWith the addition of Vellieux & Fisher, we should have 7 drafted players on next year's team.  If DiGuilian gets drafted, we will have 8.  When was the last year Cornell had 8 or more draftees on the team?  Long, Pirtle, & Hiscock all had outstanding years, but assume are too old to be drafted.
I think Cornell had 9+ drafted players at points in the mid-2000s. We were recruiting amazingly back then. We also had several first and second round picks during that time. (There were more draft rounds back then though.) In the mid-2010s we again saw a bunch of players drafted.

Looking at the draft history on the cornell athletics website, you can see this on display. In the twenty years from 1999 and 2019, only one single year (2010) did we have nobody drafted. Recruiting seems to have peaked in the early 2000s, when we averaged well over two players drafted per draft including eight in 2003 and 2004 combined.

We are currently staring at possibly the first two consecutive years of no Cornellian drafted since 1995 and 1996.

With that said, I don't think we've had 8 drafted players on the same team since 2015 or so.

BearLover

For what it's worth, last year DiGiulian was 124th in the rankings and went undrafted. Maybe it is a little worse than a coin flip that he gets drafted this year.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: CASWith the addition of Vellieux & Fisher, we should have 7 drafted players on next year's team.  If DiGuilian gets drafted, we will have 8.  When was the last year Cornell had 8 or more draftees on the team?  Long, Pirtle, & Hiscock all had outstanding years, but assume are too old to be drafted.
I think Cornell had 9+ drafted players at points in the mid-2000s. We were recruiting amazingly back then. We also had several first and second round picks during that time. (There were more draft rounds back then though.) In the mid-2010s we again saw a bunch of players drafted.

Looking at the draft history on the cornell athletics website, you can see this on display. In the twenty years from 1999 and 2019, only one single year (2010) did we have nobody drafted. Recruiting seems to have peaked in the early 2000s, when we averaged well over two players drafted per draft including eight in 2003 and 2004 combined.

We are currently staring at possibly the first two consecutive years of no Cornellian drafted since 1995 and 1996.

With that said, I don't think we've had 8 drafted players on the same team since 2015 or so.

http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Draft.html

CAS

You are obviously omitting the two drafted players coming next year - both who were drafted in prior years. When was the last year a Cornell team had 3 players drafted in the first 3 rounds?

Dafatone

One player doesn't mean anything, but now is as good as time as any to note that our highest draft pick ever (14th overall), Sasha Pokulok, played two alright-but-not-great seasons for Cornell then never made the NHL.

BearLover

Quote from: CASYou are obviously omitting the two drafted players coming next year - both who were drafted in prior years. When was the last year a Cornell team had 3 players drafted in the first 3 rounds?
Oh I forgot Veilleux. You are right. He should count. In that case we did have a player drafted last year.

BearLover

Quote from: DafatoneOne player doesn't mean anything, but now is as good as time as any to note that our highest draft pick ever (14th overall), Sasha Pokulok, played two alright-but-not-great seasons for Cornell then never made the NHL.
His freshman year couldn't have been that bad, given he was drafted right after it ended.

Dafatone

I forgot that he was drafted after his freshman year.

He wasn't bad at all. Just not terribly impressive. Showed some capability shooting and passing, though he wasn't a noticeable puck handler. Respectable defensively, but didn't really use his size well.

He was big and not bad, and that must project well (if you're 6'5" and move in a way that isn't described as lumbering, you get attention). But he also wasn't really a huge loss when he left early, as far as I remember.

chimpfood

Would also be nice to recruit guys from Ithaca better. Jack parsons and cooper Dennis would be really nice to have as recruits but they are headed to providence and Michigan. I can understand losing a guy to Michigan but a good player from Ithaca going to providence instead of Cornell, come on.

BearLover

Quote from: CASYou are obviously omitting the two drafted players coming next year - both who were drafted in prior years. When was the last year a Cornell team had 3 players drafted in the first 3 rounds?
I think 2005 and 2006 were the last two years. Pokuluk (1st), Sawada (2nd), Hynes (3rd), O'Byrne (3rd) in 2005, and those four minus Hynes in 2006. Hynes went pro after his junior year so he wasn't there for 2006.

BearLover

Quote from: chimpfoodWould also be nice to recruit guys from Ithaca better. Jack parsons and cooper Dennis would be really nice to have as recruits but they are headed to providence and Michigan. I can understand losing a guy to Michigan but a good player from Ithaca going to providence instead of Cornell, come on.
Wow, I didn't know about Parsons. Literally from Cortland. It's nuts that Harvard pulls some of the best players from a city as big as Boston, but we can't even get the best players from tiny Ithaca/Cortland.

Losing Dennis really sucked as well. He attended Cornell hockey games as a kid. I believe his family sort of knows Topher as well. Maybe they attended his camp in Ithaca. But we still didn't land him.