Cornell lacrosse 2025

Started by billhoward, August 02, 2024, 10:39:13 AM

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dag14

I found it less than 30 minutes after the game ended.  I tend to sort by sport when I am going to view a game.  Doing that, you can find the archived games below the live events.

billhoward

Cornell bounced back from the Penn State loss and is moving up again. The Inside Lacrosse Media Poll has Cornell moving up slower than when it loses: dropping from 3 to 6 after losing to Penn State in OT the week before (and then Princeton climbing 4 to 2). Then we handily beat Princeton 15-10 and moves Cornell up 2 spots to 4. But note there are only 5 points separating fourth from second.


MEDIA POLL 3/17 | "Week 6"
Rank Team                Points Prev
1 Maryland (7 - 0) 480(24) 1
2 Penn State (6 - 1) 420 4
3 Army (7 - 0)        419 3
4 Cornell (5 - 1)        415 6
5 North Carolina (6 - 1) 397 5


No USILA poll as of Monday morning.

Future opponents: Syracuse is 10, Harvard 12, Penn 16, Dartmouth 20. Meaning only Brown, 2-4, is the only out of the polls.

We'll see if the USILA poll is kinder to Cornell. Penn State's only loss is by one to Princeton.

And we'll have to see if Army's 7-0 record merits the Cadets' skills. They've beaten UMass by 7, Rutgets by 6, Yale by 11, Mercer (who?) by 13, Lafayette by 10, Holy Cross by 13, and Lehigh by 9. They do play #5 UNC March 29 at home then #15 Colgate April 5, their only ranked opponents.

CJ Kirst with another, and another:

dbilmes

Quote from: billhowardFuture opponents: Syracuse is 10, Harvard 12, Penn 16, Dartmouth 20. Meaning only Brown, 2-4, is the only out of the polls.


Our opponent this Saturday is Yale (1-4), which is also unranked.

billhoward

Yes, Yale was also-receiving-votes last week but not this. They had beaten Denver 15-10 vs. our 15-10 victory. Amazing how far Yale has fallen in lacrosse since its 2018 NCAA championship (as well as in hockey since the 2013 championship). Only 2 losing Yale lacrosse seasons since 1998.

Cornell lacrosse and hockey are more consistent (winners). Lacrosse has had six losing seasons in the modern era, that is when Ned Harkness and Richie Moran came to Cornell: four in Moran's last five seasons mid-90s and two more under Matt Kerwick (now a Buckness assistant) 2016-17. That's it.

BearLover

Quote from: billhowardAmazing how far Yale has fallen in lacrosse since its 2018 NCAA championship.
Yale has made the NCAA tournament in three out of four years since its national championship (two COVID seasons were canceled). The only year they missed was last season, when they went 11-4 overall and 4-2 in the Ivy. So I wouldn't say they've fallen at all.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: billhowardFuture opponents: Syracuse is 10, Harvard 12, Penn 16, Dartmouth 20. Meaning only Brown, 2-4, is the only out of the polls.


Our opponent this Saturday is Yale (1-4), which is also unranked.
Albany, too, IIRC.
Al DeFlorio '65

djk26

I am curious as to why Cornell does not seem to play Southern schools during the regular season.  When is the last time we had a regular season game against Maryland, North Carolina, Duke (all on Princeton's schedule this year) or Johns Hopkins?  We played at Richmond this year of course, and as of a few years ago, we seemed to play Virginia every year, but that has stopped.

I am not suggesting that Cornell has a weak schedule (and last year it was probably TOO strong.)  It just seems surprising that Cornell never gets these traditional lacrosse powers in the regular season, especially when Princeton does (and I know they stole our Syracuse game a few years ago!)

I am guessing that the answer is the same as it is for the hockey team: these other schools don't agree to travel to Ithaca in a future year, so we don't travel to them.
David Klesh ILR '02

chimpfood

Part of it might be that they don't want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it's not like they won't come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.

stereax

Quote from: chimpfoodPart of it might be that they don't want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it's not like they won't come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.
Yeah. Going to, say, Princeton or Penn isn't as In The Middle Of Nowhere as Ithaca. That's an additional 4+ hours of driving one way.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

nshapiro

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: chimpfoodPart of it might be that they don't want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it's not like they won't come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.
Yeah. Going to, say, Princeton or Penn isn't as In The Middle Of Nowhere as Ithaca. That's an additional 4+ hours of driving one way.

Penn and Princeton have gone south for two years in a row. There has not yet been any reciprocity.
When Section D was the place to be

chimpfood

Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: chimpfoodPart of it might be that they don't want to do a return trip but I believe Penn/princeton got Duke/UNC for home and home weekends this year and last so it's not like they won't come to ivies. Part of it is also probably just the travel. Look at the Richmond game this year, we went south and almost lost to a much worse team.
Yeah. Going to, say, Princeton or Penn isn't as In The Middle Of Nowhere as Ithaca. That's an additional 4+ hours of driving one way.

Penn and Princeton have gone south for two years in a row. There has not yet been any reciprocity.
Oh sorry about that, my memory failed me

upprdeck

It could just be a matter of those teams wanting to find games in better weather

CU77

IL has some nice ground-level highlight video of the Princeton game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2LBqfhYdH4&t=5s

billhoward

Quote from: djk26...
I like to believe we are supporting NYS, Northeast and near-Midwest teams. plus Denver. We are the equal or better of the top Southern teams (Maryland 7-0 this season but they were also overwhelming NCAA favorites in 2022 when we held the unbeaten Terps to a 9-7 NCAA title game.)
 
Cornell shouldn't play other than a home-and-home on equal footing.

It is easier for Princeton or Penn to play Duke. Also from Ivy school to Duke:
Penn        400 mi    7:05
Princeton   445 mi    7:45
Cornell     585 mi   10:00


The longest intra-Ivy team bus rides are Penn-Dartmouth, 360 mi, 6:05; Cornell-Harvard, 330 mi, 5:15; and Cornell-Dartmouth, 300 mi, 5:25.

Long ago, fifty years ago, when there was still a Lower Alumni Field across from Barton Hall and next to Teagle, I believe Cornell went south to get in some warm weather practice. In those Harkness / Moran-early years, it felt as if Cornell's only losses were early-season and by year's end they could beat anybody in the NCAAs except: no tournament until 1971. In 1971 Cornell lost Game 1 on April 1, 10-9 to Virginia, won all the rest, only wins less than +4 goals were to Brown and Army (read: Yankee schools) in the NCAAs, finished 13-1.