Mike Schafer retiring 2025

[billhoward]

>>> With Casey coming in after having been Clarkson's head coach for 13 years, I'd like to know what mistakes he thinks he made at Clarkson and what he would do at Cornell to avoid repeating them.

This is attack journalism. Works good on TV if you don't plan to ask the person on again.

[marty]

>>> With Casey coming in after having been Clarkson's head coach for 13 years, I'd like to know what mistakes he thinks he made at Clarkson and what he would do at Cornell to avoid repeating them.

This is attack journalism. Works good on TV if you don't plan to ask the person on again.

Too bad no one asked him in the tunnel after Clarkson's season ending loss during the ECAC playoffs.  All you would need is a hidden camera or a buddy with a cell phone to produce a viral video.  Though you might also need an ambulance.

[Swampy]

>>> With Casey coming in after having been Clarkson's head coach for 13 years, I'd like to know what mistakes he thinks he made at Clarkson and what he would do at Cornell to avoid repeating them.

This is attack journalism. Works good on TV if you don't plan to ask the person on again.

Too bad no one asked him in the tunnel after Clarkson's season ending loss during the ECAC playoffs.  All you would need is a hidden camera or a buddy with a cell phone to produce a viral video.  Though you might also need an ambulance.

Would it be less of an attack if he were asked what he thinks he can do differently at Cornell?

[marty]

Leaving Mike and Casey aside for the moment, all I can say is it's straight out of Bizzaro World that Clarkson and RPI admit well over half of their applicants.  Things have obviously progressed much worse than I ever could have imagined!

One issue at RPI is that like many financially successful schools -including Cornell- class size increased over the past 30 years to boost revenue. I guess that the number of applicants hasn't increased in proportion to the incoming class size.

I don't know if Clarkson bulked up their incoming class size.

In an attempt to drift this thread even further I'll note there was a recent article in the Albany Times Union regarding Union College.  Their finances have been recognized as negative because the financial aid doled out to support their students has caused years of deficit spending.  The school has stated they aren't the next Wells College yet are going to attempt to improve finances by changing the mix of students.  If successful the change will decrease the percentage of financial support across the tuition budget. One aim is to keep total faculty size at the current level. For this their legacy might better be served by Houdini than Edison.

Times Union on UC - hopefully with no paywall

[marty]

Double post in error because the eLynah interface told me it rejected the first because I was deemed a bot.  At least it doesn't think I'm AI.

[Troyfan]

Leaving Mike and Casey aside for the moment, all I can say is it's straight out of Bizzaro World that Clarkson and RPI admit well over half of their applicants.  Things have obviously progressed much worse than I ever could have imagined!

One issue at RPI is that like many financially successful schools -including Cornell- class size increased over the past 30 years to boost revenue. I guess that the number of applicants hasn't increased in proportion to the incoming class size.

I don't know if Clarkson bulked up their incoming class size.

In an attempt to drift this thread even further I'll note there was a recent article in the Albany Times Union regarding Union College.  Their finances have been recognized as negative because the financial aid doled out to support their students has caused years of deficit spending.  The school has stated they aren't the next Wells College yet are going to attempt to improve finances by changing the mix of students.  If successful the change will decrease the percentage of financial support across the tuition budget. One aim is to keep total faculty size at the current level. For this their legacy might better be served by Houdini than Edison.

Times Union on UC - hopefully with no paywall

Funny how they never mention cutting administrators to save money even though almost every college has more of them than of faculty.  Some in CA have more admins than students.  In my 4 years before the mast you could go a whole year without seeing an admin.

That's my last puff in thread drift's sails.

[Jim Hyla]

the point is that Casey has dealt with academic constraints of the most stringent kind successfully.

But let's drop the idea that this was a problem at Clarkson.

The way he showed that he could deal with this was that he recruited for Cornell.

I find it hard to believe that he didn't find it much easier when he went to Clarkson.

Most hockey recruits don't care about academic prestige,

Then in the same post you said

With that said, academic prestige is obviously a major recruiting selling point for all the Ivies

Tough to say both of those at the same time.

I'll agree with the second. Almost every recruit says it. You can say it's what they have to say, but I think they believe it.

And from discussions I've heard, certainly their parents believe it.

[Trotsky]

>>> With Casey coming in after having been Clarkson's head coach for 13 years, I'd like to know what mistakes he thinks he made at Clarkson and what he would do at Cornell to avoid repeating them.

This is attack journalism. Works good on TV if you don't plan to ask the person on again.

Too bad no one asked him in the tunnel after Clarkson's season ending loss during the ECAC playoffs.  All you would need is a hidden camera or a buddy with a cell phone to produce a viral video.  Though you might also need an ambulance.

One word.  Drones.

[BearLover]

Most hockey recruits don't care about academic prestige,

Then in the same post you said

With that said, academic prestige is obviously a major recruiting selling point for all the Ivies

Tough to say both of those at the same time.
[/quote]
The first statement applies to the full universe of college hockey recruits.

The second applies to the Ivies and how they market themselves to the smaller subset of potential recruits who (or whose parents) do care about academic prestige.

[Trotsky]

In Bear's defense, that was how I read his statements.  And I agree with him.

[jtwcornell91]

The university should consider retiring Mike's jersey number, not because of his HOF achievements in the NHL but because of his extraordinary, lifelong contribution to Cornell Hockey.

Totally agree on retiring his jersey number.  They probably ought to let Jack O'Brien play his last two years trying to live up to the Schafer standard, then retire #3.

Un-retire the numbers and create a "Ring of Honor" (Wall of Honor? Rafter of Honor?) instead.  Then we'd be able to honor people like Ned and Teet.  

I'll die on this hill.

+1

Barring that, I hope retired numbers ends up like honorary degrees: something Cornell did one time and then thought better of.

[ursusminor]

Since I am not a Cornell alum/fan, I did not realize that when Schafer retires in a year, he will have been Cornell's head coach for 30 years counting the COVID year. What surprised me was that I recall reading here posts showing that people were dissatisfied with Brian McCutcheon. That means that I must have been reading this forum before that. So I checked my profile which shows I have been a member since 2004. Many others have that year at about the same date as me. Was the board reset back then? I do recall having taken the user name ursaminor first and someone pointed out that was the female form. They don't teach Latin at RPI although I did know that alumnus is the male form and alumna the female form. I can hear my mother saying that not requiring eight years of Latin is what is wrong about the American school system. :-D

Sorry about the thread drift.

[marty]

Since I am not a Cornell alum/fan, I did not realize that when Schafer retires in a year, he will have been Cornell's head coach for 30 years counting the COVID year. What surprised me was that I recall reading here posts showing that people were dissatisfied with Brian McCutcheon. That means the I must have been reading this forum before that. So I checked my profile which shows I have been a member since 2004. Many others have that year at about the same date as me. Was the board reset back then? I do recall having taken the user name ursaminor first and someone pointed out that was the female form. They don't teach Latin at RPI although I did know that alumnus is the male form and alumna the female form. I can hear my mother saying that not requiring eight years of Latin is what is wrong about the American school system. :-D

Sorry about the thread drift.

It was transitioned from another client.  I lost my original name at the time because Macs can't deal with apostrophes or some such thing.  (Actually Cowbell Guy was very polite and apologetic when my board name changed.)

I am too old to remember the history but maybe Age will make his yearly post to recap the past.

[cbuckser]

I recall first finding this forum's predecessor during the 1996-97 season. Ryle Rose started it. Several years later, Age succeeded him.

Thanks to everyone who made this forum a great place to spend time during almost the entire Schafer Era.

[Swampy]

I didn't want to start a new thread, but this article probably should be on a thread entitled, "Casey Jones: Cornell Men's Hockey's next coach."