Women 2024-25

Swampy · March 18, 2025, 01:56:06 PM

Quote from: upprdeckthey could have argued she tried to play in some games and couldnt really go?

Who knows

Good for her if she wants to continue on.

Haven't we had athletes in other sports (or maybe even hockey) who've spent an extra year playing for Cornell thanks to medical red-shirts? (e.g. R. Pannell)

upprdeck · March 18, 2025, 01:58:17 PM

Parnell withdrew didn't he to get around the issue?

Weder · March 18, 2025, 02:01:27 PM

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: upprdeckthey could have argued she tried to play in some games and couldnt really go?

Who knows

Good for her if she wants to continue on.

Haven't we had athletes in other sports (or maybe even hockey) who've spent an extra year playing for Cornell thanks to medical red-shirts? (e.g. R. Pannell)

You have to unenroll from classes in most cases to do that, so I think the injury would have to come at a point where you're not too deep into a semester (unless you/your family is willing to take the tuition hit, I guess?) I think Pannell's injury came at a point where it was easier to decide to take a semester off from school?

dbilmes · March 18, 2025, 02:24:38 PM

Looking at the transfer portal, interesting to note that we have two other seniors in there -- goalie Belle Mendes and defenseman Alexa Davis. After playing in 87 games her first three years, Davis only played in one game this year. I'm assuming she lost her spot in the lineup, although she also may have been injured. Mendes played in 15 games as a sophomore, but has only played in a total of six games over the past two seasons, as she lost the starting job to Bergmann. I hope both of them find programs where they can close out their college careers playing regularly.

jtwcornell91 · March 18, 2025, 04:43:46 PM

Quote from: Weder
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: upprdeckthey could have argued she tried to play in some games and couldnt really go?

Who knows

Good for her if she wants to continue on.

Haven't we had athletes in other sports (or maybe even hockey) who've spent an extra year playing for Cornell thanks to medical red-shirts? (e.g. R. Pannell)

You have to unenroll from classes in most cases to do that, so I think the injury would have to come at a point where you're not too deep into a semester (unless you/your family is willing to take the tuition hit, I guess?) I think Pannell's injury came at a point where it was easier to decide to take a semester off from school?

I know it's happened in football, but there it's easy to take the Spring semester off and finish in the Fall.

billchu · March 18, 2025, 05:16:03 PM

Ashley Messier came in as a first year in Fall of 2020. The Ivy League canceled sports that year, so she withdrew from Cornell to preserve her eligibility. She played the 21-22, 22-23, 23-24, and 24-25 seasons, so she has exhausted her Ivy eligibility. Since she first enrolled in 2020, she is entitled to a NCAA fifth year of eligibility due to COVID.

ugarte · March 18, 2025, 05:41:02 PM

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Weder
Quote from: SwampyHaven't we had athletes in other sports (or maybe even hockey) who've spent an extra year playing for Cornell thanks to medical red-shirts? (e.g. R. Pannell)

You have to unenroll from classes in most cases to do that, so I think the injury would have to come at a point where you're not too deep into a semester (unless you/your family is willing to take the tuition hit, I guess?) I think Pannell's injury came at a point where it was easier to decide to take a semester off from school?

I know it's happened in football, but there it's easy to take the Spring semester off and finish in the Fall.

we had two wrestlers do that this year

Quote from: andyw2100Apparently Ashley Messier entered the transfer portal and will be playing for UMD next year.

https://www.fox21online.com/2025/03/17/umd-womens-hockey-adds-cornell-defender-ashley-messier-via-transfer-portal/

Walking through the locker room on the first day of practice "Hi, I'm Ashley. Sorry about last year. ... Hi, I'm Ashley. Sorry about last year. ... Hi, I'm Ashley. Sorry about last year. ..."

BearLover · March 18, 2025, 05:46:50 PM

Quote from: billchuAshley Messier came in as a first year in Fall of 2020. The Ivy League canceled sports that year, so she withdrew from Cornell to preserve her eligibility. She played the 21-22, 22-23, 23-24, and 24-25 seasons, so she has exhausted her Ivy eligibility. Since she first enrolled in 2020, she is entitled to a NCAA fifth year of eligibility due to COVID.

I don't think this is right? Or if it is, it doesn't make very much sense. The rule was that the COVID year of 2020-21 doesn't count towards eligibility. Messier exhausted four years of eligibility not counting 2020-21. Therefore it was the medical waiver she received for her injury, not the COVID fifth year, that entitles her to an extra season.

For the same reason, Penney, O'Leary, and Rego, who withdrew during the same season, will have exhausted all eligibility after 2024-25. They cannot transfer to another school for another year of hockey. Messier can, but only because she missed most of a year due to injury.

billchu · March 18, 2025, 06:40:02 PM

You may be right, but she did mention in her zoom interview from February 2021 that the NCAA had granted an extra year of eligibility. See around the 9 min 30 sec mark.

As regarding medical redshirting for the 22-23 season, she played in 11 of the 32 games that season, exceeding the 30% threshold.

https://youtu.be/ZQ_xEuhFWao?si=NXL_Jticp1JaZJ6L

Weder · March 18, 2025, 07:44:41 PM

Looks like the team had a charter from Ithaca to Minneapolis this afternoon: https://www.instagram.com/cornellwhockey/p/DHWxXhvuCtv/

stereax · March 18, 2025, 08:56:49 PM

Quote from: ugarteWalking through the locker room on the first day of practice "Hi, I'm Ashley. Sorry about last year. ... Hi, I'm Ashley. Sorry about last year. ... Hi, I'm Ashley. Sorry about last year. ..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

marty · March 18, 2025, 08:56:52 PM

Quote from: billchuYou may be right, but she did mention in her zoom interview from February 2021 that the NCAA had granted an extra year of eligibility. See around the 9 min 30 sec mark.

As regarding medical redshirting for the 22-23 season, she played in 11 of the 32 games that season, exceeding the 30% threshold.

https://youtu.be/ZQ_xEuhFWao?si=NXL_Jticp1JaZJ6L

I wonder when this will start. It will certainly eff up the Ivies when it does.

stereax · March 18, 2025, 08:58:13 PM

Btw, the Boatyard Grill in Ithaca is streaming the women's game on Friday, with other Faithful and food to order... debating on going, given it's about a 30-minute walk one way... thoughts?

andyw2100 · March 18, 2025, 10:05:21 PM

Quote from: stereaxBtw, the Boatyard Grill in Ithaca is streaming the women's game on Friday, with other Faithful and food to order... debating on going, given it's about a 30-minute walk one way... thoughts?

Will be in Lake Placid watching the men's game and the women's game on my phone between periods. If I was going to be in Ithaca and the men weren't playing I would probably have gone to The Boatyard Grill for the watch party.

Weder · March 30, 2025, 12:28:13 PM

Inspired by a post in the men's 2025-26 thread:
For non-conference games, Cornell seems to have settled into playing AHA teams and then looking for a tournament (Nashville, D.C., Ice Breaker) where it can get a game against a top WCHA team. Hockey East seems to have fallen off the non-conference radar. Any thoughts teams folks would like to see the Red play?