Men's Lax Syracuse at Cornell 4/2/2024

[dbilmes]

Kudos to the Daily Orange, which actually had three stories about the game filed on deadline. This one has a lot of quotes from Long, Another story notes that two years ago, the last time the teams played, Knust also came  off the bench to help Cornell pull out a come-from-behind win in OT. The third story is a notebook on the game, noting, among other things, that Cornell is 69th nationally in defensive efficiency, not a surprise to those of us who have been watching the games. Where is Adler when we need him?
The Syracuse offensive coordinator was reportedly ejected for making contact with an official.

Got the score of the game wrong, though, in the Long article.::doh::  Also, said the subject of the article, Long, was (5,5), not the correct (5,4).  Accuracy matters.

As a long-time sports journalist, I agree that accuracy matters. But at least they are filing well-written stories on deadline. And after all, they are student-journalists.

[upprdeck]

its hard to be accurate though.. Where do you get the numbers from?  often you have several box scores of sports and they are different.

[Al DeFlorio]

its hard to be accurate though.. Where do you get the numbers from?  often you have several box scores of sports and they are different.

This is hard to swallow, sorry to say.  If you are going to write about a game, you should watch it.  It isn't hard, then, to get the final score correct.  Yes, the writing was OK, and having the multiple articles was a nice feature.

[djk26]

It was a game neither team deserved to lose (and, arguably, neither team deserved to win with long stretches of bafflingly bad play on each side.)  But I am reminded of what I have felt since at least, oh, 2009.  Lacrosse overtimes should not end in sudden death.  I don't know how long this rule has been in place, I know it wasn't there when Cornell played Maryland for the national championship in the 70s.  

But lacrosse can and should be a high scoring game.  This is not hockey or soccer where it could take 30 minutes plus between goals.  Maybe a four minute overtime is too short if it's not sudden death.  Both teams had their chances in OT last night, but I just think OT woud be even more exciting if you knew you had to play a full four or a full five minutes or whatever and it woudn't end with the first goal.

[Chris '03]

It was a game neither team deserved to lose (and, arguably, neither team deserved to win with long stretches of bafflingly bad play on each side.)  But I am reminded of what I have felt since at least, oh, 2009.  Lacrosse overtimes should not end in sudden death.  I don't know how long this rule has been in place, I know it wasn't there when Cornell played Maryland for the national championship in the 70s.  

But lacrosse can and should be a high scoring game.  This is not hockey or soccer where it could take 30 minutes plus between goals.  Maybe a four minute overtime is too short if it's not sudden death.  Both teams had their chances in OT last night, but I just think OT woud be even more exciting if you knew you had to play a full four or a full five minutes or whatever and it woudn't end with the first goal.

I recall when I was a student that women's lax overtime was two four minute periods with no sudden victory. It's how cornell lost the 2002 national semifinal.

[upprdeck]

a full 5 min and then a sudden death would be fine. both teams would pretty much get the ball 2-3 times, a chance for FO to happen a time or and a chance to Ds to play as well as the Os.

[ugarte]

a full 5 min and then a sudden death would be fine. both teams would pretty much get the ball 2-3 times, a chance for FO to happen a time or and a chance to Ds to play as well as the Os.

hey, that's yesterday!

[Swampy]

Ugh please don't turn this into basketball. The number one reason I don't watch it.

if there are 10 seconds left in a game, there's time to score a goal. if there are 4 seconds left on a restart, maybe not so much? we're not talking about 30 minutes of real time to play 2 minutes of action. There's no reason to allow a remotely decent shot in that little amount of time when the consequences of a foul are basically nil.

Well, there's still a small chance that no matter how hard the foul is, the opponent will score and tie the game. Then the severity of the foul might get a good player kicked out of the game before it goes into overtime. Or, almost as bad, given a 3-minute unreleasable.

[ugarte]

Ugh please don't turn this into basketball. The number one reason I don't watch it.

if there are 10 seconds left in a game, there's time to score a goal. if there are 4 seconds left on a restart, maybe not so much? we're not talking about 30 minutes of real time to play 2 minutes of action. There's no reason to allow a remotely decent shot in that little amount of time when the consequences of a foul are basically nil.

Well, there's still a small chance that no matter how hard the foul is, the opponent will score and tie the game. Then the severity of the foul might get a good player kicked out of the game before it goes into overtime. Or, almost as bad, given a 3-minute unreleasable.

Interesting, but my response is "if you could sneak a gun on to the field, you should use it."

[mike1960]

I will say, it's been a full day, but I'm still on a winning high right now.

[billhoward]

Four-minute overtimes, whoever gets more goals wins, if not, four more minutes. Seldom does a game go more than two OTs. Much fairer. Our 1976 16-13 national title win over Maryland started with a Maryland goal. The fact we scored four more suggests the better team was Cornell.

The NCAA will say it has bigger things to worry about, like the possibility it collapses.  But the lax committee ought to push something through.

[TimV]

Just grab him and hold him.  Gently.  Still, with only a few seconds to go, even a 3 minute penalty is inconsequential if it prevents the game tieing goal, right?

[chimpfood]

I like sudden death OT. Walk off goals are just electric.

[Al DeFlorio]

I like sudden death OT. Walk off goals are just electric.

But a ridiculous way to decide a game when a goal is scored every two minutes.  They did it right in 1976.  Would you want sudden death in basketball?

[Al DeFlorio]

10 of Cornell's 17 goals scored in regulation came in the last three minutes of a period.