Harvard @ Cornell Saturday

[ACM]

Just going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

[upprdeck]

ECAC gets the chunk of the money so they make the rules.

[BearLover]

Why does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

The vast majority of students have been chanting that for at least the last 15 years. They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now? That's everybody's favorite cheer (including the players' if you listen to their interviews).

what changed Friday night was that it was not a Cornell home game.  It was an ECAC playoff game, put on by the ECAC.  If they have different ideas of the rules, or how strictly they should be enforced, well, that's their prerogative.  What was acceptable to the Cornell administration during the regular season just isn't relevant.

The ECAC gets to dictate the rules during the conference tournament, but not during the regular season? Cornell hosted the playoff game, just as they host home games during the regular season. I wasn't aware there was a substantive difference. It seems bizarre to me the ECAC has authority during a playoff game hosted by a team that it does not have during a regular season game hosted by that same team, against another ECAC team.

Yes.  Same as the NcAA gets to ban alcohol sales for NCAA tournament games at arenas that normally have alcohol sales during the regular season, for another example.

Interesting. Well, I guess that means we'll have Gary Glitter back next year, at least.

[dag14]

Just going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Climbing over the glass to mingle with the team ended when the new glass went in but, with the right encouragement, fans went on the ice through the open doors to celebrate for at least a couple of years after that.  I was one of the "adults" who pushed students to do it the first year, because it was one of the few times fans could hang with the team unless they were friends off ice and it was a tradition I had shared in for years, first as a student and then as a faculty member.

[adamw]

Just going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Yes, but at least as recently as 5 years ago? Maybe 10 - time flies ... fans were allowed to come on the ice through the zamboni doors. I thought I remember seeing that as recently as a few years ago - but again, time flies, so who knows.

[BearLover]

Just going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Yes, but at least as recently as 5 years ago? Maybe 10 - time flies ... fans were allowed to come on the ice through the zamboni doors. I thought I remember seeing that as recently as a few years ago - but again, time flies, so who knows.

I think it has been at least 15 years.

[Iceberg]

Just going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Yes, but at least as recently as 5 years ago? Maybe 10 - time flies ... fans were allowed to come on the ice through the zamboni doors. I thought I remember seeing that as recently as a few years ago - but again, time flies, so who knows.

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted. I specifically remember one instance at the end of a PE hockey class where the rink manager or whoever ran rink operations at the time was quick to call us off the ice because the team happened to have a practice afterwards. There was always clear separation so I imagine there was a change at least a few years before 2010 when I first started living on North Campus

[sah67]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

EDIT: I guess it's still a thing: https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/event/skate-with-the-big-red/

[imafrshmn]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

[DL]

But the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years.

And the ushers have been tossing some of them out for that to "make an example" off and on over the last 20 years (although they do seem to have chilled out on the ejections during the last few years). Maybe it was an Andy Noel thing, and the new AD wants to have a better reputation with the students? That's been my impression at least, although I think having ECAC brass  in the building (like last night) causes sphincters to tighten up a bit amongst athletics staff.

In four years of sitting in the student section with everyone yelling "fuck 'em up," never once did I see someone tossed out for that.

Pretty sure I got tossed out over 20 years ago because they claimed I said fuck 'em up. Ironic, as that was one of the times I actually wasn't, though loads more around me were. Course, I just came back in a different entrance, but it was still a pretty shit thing to do.

[David Harding]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

[CUDrew0105]

The going on to the ice after winning in the quarters went away sometime around 2008. We went on the ice routinely when we won quarters from the late 90's to mid-2000s. It was a really cool thing to do and the players seemed to genuinely enjoy it. Heck, it was how I got Iggulden to sign my home jersey (well to be fair, I had my girlfriend wear the jersey and ask him to sign it...but jersey and now wife are still going strong almost 20 years later!) Others would bring jerseys, programs, and cameras to have players sign and/or take pictures.  It is a shame it went away.

As for the game, it was one of the best Harvard x Cornell games in recent memory. The team has been trending in the right direction the last few weeks and the play of the freshman has been really impressive. The student section clearly needs to work on some new cheers and some old ones need to make a come back. I dislike the profanity and find it completely unoriginal. That seems to be a relatively recent development over the last few years as I don't remember it being a thing a few years ago.  But it led to my oldest daughter putting her hands over my youngest's ears every few minutes, which humored those around us in O.

Here's to hoping we can figure out the yeti that mans the Dartmouth goal!

[VIEWfromK]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

EDIT: I guess it's still a thing: https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/event/skate-with-the-big-red/

It's the best night of the year.  It's the Friday after their last games of the fall semester.  Have made some lifelong friends at this event.

[adamw]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

[VIEWfromK]

The crowd is loud and engaged, which is tremendous, but they still have very little creativity.

And now we get a third period fish thrown and a "Season's over" chant with a full period to play.

Frat boys gonna frat.

Friday night the "scoreboard, scoreboard" chants started early second period.  That didn't age well