NCAA NIL/Subdivision Proposal

[abmarks]

And so it begins.... ::cry::

So they built a software platform.


Doesn't mean that there are any athletes at Brown worth more than the price of a big Mac a month.

[Swampy]

And so it begins.... ::cry::

So they built a software platform.


Doesn't mean that there are any athletes at Brown worth more than the price of a big Mac a month.

You may be right. But I see Brown as a harbinger of the remaining 7 Ivies getting into the NIL game. All you would need is a player like Adam Fox choosing Brown over Harvard because of the potential NIL $, and Harvard would then get into the game.

And BTW, the urban Ivies (B, Col, H, Pu, Pr, Y) are much better-located to have lucrative NIL options than the two rural schools (Cor & D).

[BearLover]

And so it begins.... ::cry::

So they built a software platform.


Doesn't mean that there are any athletes at Brown worth more than the price of a big Mac a month.

You may be right. But I see Brown as a harbinger of the remaining 7 Ivies getting into the NIL game. All you would need is a player like Adam Fox choosing Brown over Harvard because of the potential NIL $, and Harvard would then get into the game.

And BTW, the urban Ivies (B, Col, H, Pu, Pr, Y) are much better-located to have lucrative NIL options than the two rural schools (Cor & D).

NIL in practice isn't about Castagna doing an ad for Collegetown Pizza, though. It's about a wealthy donor funneling money to a player disconnected from any actual use of name, image, or likeness.

How much NIL affects the Ivy League is going to be a function of how much rich donors want to put in. It isn't going to matter much where the Ivy is located or what the local business scene is. None of the Ivy administrations seem interested in promoting NIL whatsoever, and I don't think many rich alums seem engaged in the NIL scene, so I would predict there will be little to no effect of NIL on the Ivies for the foreseeable future.

[Swampy]

And so it begins.... ::cry::

So they built a software platform.


Doesn't mean that there are any athletes at Brown worth more than the price of a big Mac a month.

You may be right. But I see Brown as a harbinger of the remaining 7 Ivies getting into the NIL game. All you would need is a player like Adam Fox choosing Brown over Harvard because of the potential NIL $, and Harvard would then get into the game.

And BTW, the urban Ivies (B, Col, H, Pu, Pr, Y) are much better-located to have lucrative NIL options than the two rural schools (Cor & D).

NIL in practice isn't about Castagna doing an ad for Collegetown Pizza, though. It's about a wealthy donor funneling money to a player disconnected from any actual use of name, image, or likeness.

How much NIL affects the Ivy League is going to be a function of how much rich donors want to put in. It isn't going to matter much where the Ivy is located or what the local business scene is. None of the Ivy administrations seem interested in promoting NIL whatsoever, and I don't think many rich alums seem engaged in the NIL scene, so I would predict there will be little to no effect of NIL on the Ivies for the foreseeable future.

I hope you're right, but look at the Brown NIL website I linked to in my earlier post.

[BearLover]

And so it begins.... ::cry::

So they built a software platform.


Doesn't mean that there are any athletes at Brown worth more than the price of a big Mac a month.

You may be right. But I see Brown as a harbinger of the remaining 7 Ivies getting into the NIL game. All you would need is a player like Adam Fox choosing Brown over Harvard because of the potential NIL $, and Harvard would then get into the game.

And BTW, the urban Ivies (B, Col, H, Pu, Pr, Y) are much better-located to have lucrative NIL options than the two rural schools (Cor & D).

NIL in practice isn't about Castagna doing an ad for Collegetown Pizza, though. It's about a wealthy donor funneling money to a player disconnected from any actual use of name, image, or likeness.

How much NIL affects the Ivy League is going to be a function of how much rich donors want to put in. It isn't going to matter much where the Ivy is located or what the local business scene is. None of the Ivy administrations seem interested in promoting NIL whatsoever, and I don't think many rich alums seem engaged in the NIL scene, so I would predict there will be little to no effect of NIL on the Ivies for the foreseeable future.

I hope you're right, but look at the Brown NIL website I linked to in my earlier post.

It's just a platform to link athletes with people willing to pay them. It doesn't mean there are actually people willing to pay them. Maybe a couple basketball players will get free subs at the local deli.

[Trotsky]

I assume the discriminator will be from rich moron alumni, and that's most likely not much of a ripple for hockey.  The schools themselves can't afford to officially stray too far from the snobbery of not rubbing shoulders with < Monty Python accent > ugh... tradesmen.  HYP alums would pop their monocles, and we have seen from current events the Ivies will engage in literally any degree of cringeworthy brown-nosing humiliation not to alienate peevish wealthy alumni.

[abmarks]

I assume the discriminator will be from rich moron alumni, and that's most likely not much of a ripple for hockey.  The schools themselves can't afford to officially stray too far from the snobbery of not rubbing shoulders with < Monty Python accent > ugh... tradesmen.  HYP alums would pop their monocles, and we have seen from current events the Ivies will engage in literally any degree of cringeworthy brown-nosing humiliation not to alienate peevish wealthy alumni.

It only takes one though.

TRotsky, you're almost dead from old age anyway, so if you won the powerball when it's like $1B in prizes, you could easily afford to cough up, IDK 300 Mil to Cornell Hockey, right Methuselah?

[Trotsky]

TRotsky, you're almost dead from old age anyway, so if you won the powerball when it's like $1B in prizes, you could easily afford to cough up, IDK 300 Mil to Cornell Hockey, right Methuselah?

It's all going to the Abecedarians.

[Weder]

NYT published a look at NIL earnings the other day (gift link), with both men's and women's hockey players' expected annual earnings right around $3,500. At the end of the story you can filter by sport, but the numbers are:

Women's hockey: $3,556
Men's hockey: $3,518

A couple other sports:
Wrestling: $18,153
Men's lacrosse: $5,780

[BearLover]

NYT published a look at NIL earnings the other day (gift link), with both men's and women's hockey players' expected annual earnings right around $3,500. At the end of the story you can filter by sport, but the numbers are:

Women's hockey: $3,556
Men's hockey: $3,518

A couple other sports:
Wrestling: $18,153
Men's lacrosse: $5,780

Interesting article. At the bottom of the sortable chart by sport, there is the following note:

"Note: To be included in the calculations, players' expected annual earnings must rank in at least the top 50 at their position. The Track/Cross Country category includes athletes in track and field."

If I understand this correctly, then the annual NIL earnings for eg. a hockey player is actually even much smaller than $3,500? I.e. probably it has no effect at all on college hockey other than with respect to the very very few top players in the country.

[dbilmes]

Q is probably paying most of its top players more than that.

[Weder]

Q is probably paying most of its top players more than that.

Remember that non-Americans can't take NIL money though, so would be curious to see if that has affected their recruiting strategy at all.

[BearLover]

Q is probably paying most of its top players more than that.

I would find that hard to believe.

[BearLover]

Q is probably paying most of its top players more than that.

Remember that non-Americans can't take NIL money though, so would be curious to see if that has affected their recruiting strategy at all.

I would be surprised if NIL factors into Q's recruiting strategy. Who are the rich boosters hypothetically funding this? There seems to be little NIL in college hockey at the moment and I see no reason Q would be an exception.

[upprdeck]

non Americans can take NIL but it can be for things they are doing in the US.