Empty seats at Lynah

Started by 617BigRed, October 30, 2023, 05:51:45 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover$350, can that really be true? That is $27/game. Way too expensive for a college hockey game. The money doesn't even go to the hockey team.
I don't know that it is any more expensive than tickets in our day.

$27 now equals $8.28 of purchasing power 40 years ago with an average inflation rate of 3%.

That looks exactly on beam.

CAS

I'm not arguing against lowering ticket prices, which I support.  My point is I believe Cornell hockey tickets at less than $20/game for townies (& cheaper for students)  - with no seat more than 14 rows from the ice - is a great value.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover$350, can that really be true? That is $27/game. Way too expensive for a college hockey game. The money doesn't even go to the hockey team.
I don't know that it is any more expensive than tickets in our day.

$27 now equals $8.28 of purchasing power 40 years ago with an average inflation rate of 3%.

That looks exactly on beam.
Depends whose "day" you mean by "our day."  In the early 60s it was a $25 CUAA coupon book that got a student into every sports event.
Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover$350, can that really be true? That is $27/game. Way too expensive for a college hockey game. The money doesn't even go to the hockey team.
I don't know that it is any more expensive than tickets in our day.

$27 now equals $8.28 of purchasing power 40 years ago with an average inflation rate of 3%.

That looks exactly on beam.

To me its because things have changed.. in the 80s I had cost to live/gas/food etc.

Now I have cell phones/internet/cable/streaming  Give me back that 3-400 a month and 5000 a yr can be spent on fun stuff..

Finding $60-100 to buy season tickets in the 80-90s no big deal even when not making much.. finding $700 now, even when i make a ton more doesnt feel the same

dbilmes

I don't know why we are having this discussion, since according to the Cornell Athletics Department there were no unsold tickets for the opening weekend.
"Senior forward Gabriel Seger and junior goaltender Ian Shane have both been recognized by ECAC Hockey for their performances in the Big Red's sweep of No. 11-ranked Minnesota Duluth last weekend in front of a pair of over-capacity crowds at Lynah Rink."

CAS

Reported attendance of 4,316 for both games is actually higher than what was the prior Lynah capacity of 4,267 (maybe the balcony standing room?).


Will

Quote from: BearLoverCheck out Section A in these pics:

https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/photos/mens-ice-hockey-2023-24/nggallery/mens-hockey-2023-24/minn-duluth-w-4-1

Doesn't look "over capacity" to me.

So the seats are empty, but apparently still sold according to the reported attendance figures.  Assuming it's students buying the tickets for unfilled seats, it's not really a question of lowering tickets prices to attract student buyers.  The real question is how to convert them into attending fans.
Is next year here yet?

andyw2100

Quote from: andyw2100And the two service dogs. Don't forget the service dogs.

Was anyone else worried for the dogs' welfare, being so close to the band? I googled it, and anything above 85 decibels can damage a dog's hearing. In Section M the band was regularly at 87- 89 decibels pregame, according to an app on my phone. I have to think in Section A they would be significantly louder.


One of the two service dogs I was worried about: (photo by Ned Dykes)

Dafatone

I think $350 is a lot of money to a lot of students, but I also think it's very little money to a lot of students. And I suspect those students are also more likely to buy tickets and not bother going because a) the investment is so little to them that they don't feel like they have to go in order to not waste the money and b) they're more likely to afford other things to do on hockey nights.

If dropping prices got more interest and better student fans, I'd be for it. And I do think, on average, students for whom ticket prices are a big commitment are more likely to go to every game than those who don't care about the prices. But it's not like the tickets aren't selling.

BearLover

Quote from: Will
Quote from: BearLoverCheck out Section A in these pics:

https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/photos/mens-ice-hockey-2023-24/nggallery/mens-hockey-2023-24/minn-duluth-w-4-1

Doesn't look "over capacity" to me.

So the seats are empty, but apparently still sold according to the reported attendance figures.  Assuming it's students buying the tickets for unfilled seats, it's not really a question of lowering tickets prices to attract student buyers.  The real question is how to convert them into attending fans.
I agree with you, assuming that's the case. But in my opinion the fact one of the most hotly desired sections (A) is almost completely empty, while two others (C and D) appear to be almost half empty, calls into question whether these tickets were really sold. Maybe I'm wrong, but seems a lot of attendance figures manage to fudge the numbers to make tickers sales appear higher than they really are. I guess we'll have to see what attendance looks like going forward.

upprdeck

it is a good question on where all the students were in section A sold or not.  Its not like it was randomly empty.

billhoward

This is Lynah Rink for Minnesota-Duluth, 5 minutes past the start time. So the "over-capacity crowd of 4,316" (per Cornell PR) is, ah, still filing in. Photos from Section M, the townie-faculty-old alumni section at center ice behind the visitor bench.

The crowd certainly filled in somewhat, as the game got going. Both nights. Section B, the second section in on the Cornell-bench side, was definitely well filled in, as per usual. Could it be a lot of students were dining with the parents since this was Parents or Family Weekend?

Panorama: 7:04 pm Friday. Second photo: 7:22 pm, first Cornell goal.

billhoward

It's possible the fire marshall cleared out the over part of the capacity crowd and got a little overzealous.

Just as anytime a country is called the Peoples' Democratic / Free / Independent Republic it most certainly is not any of them, when the home team's stories talk about over-capacity, maybe there's an under-capacity issue. Perhaps Cornell counts tickets sold but not used?

For any other ECAC school this would be an excellent turnout.

Trotsky

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Quote from: Al DeFlorioThat looks exactly on beam.
Depends whose "day" you mean by "our day."  In the early 60s it was a $25 CUAA coupon book that got a student into every sports event.

Well, in the early 60s we sucked.  Supply and demand.  Do we still just give free football tix to students?