Cornell lacrosse 2024

[Cornell95]

For the SU game the Canadian and United States anthems were played over the PA system
guessing we might see the pep band in the stands doing both when the weather is better and students arent on break

[mike1960]

For the SU game the Canadian and United States anthems were played over the PA system
guessing we might see the pep band in the stands doing both when the weather is better and students arent on break

Thanks!

[djk26]

I went to the SU game with my brother and sister (SU fans, I tolerate them LOL)
and we had no issues getting tickets walking up. I wouldnt expect the crowd to be larger for Brown (less rain but still chilly, and I assume no Brown fans while SU had some diehards in attendance)

bathrooms and a concession were open.
I thought the tickets were still $10, but it does look like they have gone up to $12
still a deal compared to tickets at the Dome (18+ surcharges and you need to pay for parking and walk further)

Thank you for the information.

[mike1960]

One thing we learned from the Syracuse game is that we are effective when we open up the field and create more space. We tend to pass the ball to get a closer shot and squeeze the defense down, but that also clogs the middle, especially with the crease attack in there. When we spread things out by just two or three steps, the SU defense had to make longer slides and were in some difficulty. We spread things out only a couple of times, but I hope they see that and try it more often in future games.

[billhoward]

Glad you're going to the game. Thank you for making our collective day if in any way you had thoughts Schoellkopf Field might sell out (though you said otherwise). That happens for graduation (tickets are $70,000 times four years) and comes close for the fireworks the night before football Homecoming in September.

Yes, BigRedTix.com is the legit link to Cornell tickets. It's $7 for 12 and under, and and over, groups of 10 or more, leaving teens and adults to pay $12. I believe that's the same price for at the gate. If it's not, you're paying more gasoline that you do for the tickets, in most cases. A really excellent lacrosse game against, say, a Princeton on a warm Saturday afternoon might draw 4,000-5,000. Syracuse these days is a night game and in the rain and cold Tuesday drew just under a thousand. Against a Duke or a Virginia ... wait, the Secession State schools generally don't come north to Schoellkopf. We have wisely picked up Big10 type opponents who have pretty good.

[mike1960]

Happy to see Notre Dame beat Duke today 14-12. Wouldn't want to get them after a tough loss.

[Al DeFlorio]

ND tickets here: https://www.ticketsignup.io/TicketEvent/CornellvsNotreDame

[Trotsky]

Happy to see Notre Dame beat Duke today 14-12. Wouldn't want to get them after a tough loss.

I'd enjoy seeing Duke lose in cornhole.

[billhoward]

Cornell loses by 1 goal to the #1 team and drops a position in the polls to 9th. 10th in RPI. Media poll is in, Quint Kessenich's personal poll is in (Cornell 10), USILA coaches poll strolls in late Monday / Tuesday. All have Yale rated above Cornell by 1-2 positions, FWIW. Update: USILA poll, in Tuesday, is the most favorable to Cornell's status: ranked 8th, ahead of 9 Yale, 13 Penn, 17 Princeton and 19 Harvard.  

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[b]Men's Division I Media Poll
Rank Team             Points      Prev[/b]
1        Notre Dame (8 - 1) 500(25)  1
2 Duke (11 - 3)        465 4
3 Johns Hopkins (9 - 3) 442 3
4 Virginia (10 - 2) 420 2
5 Maryland (8 - 3) 389 5
6 Syracuse (10 - 4) 354 7
7 Denver (9 - 2)        349 10
8 Yale (9 - 2)        313 9
9 Cornell (7 - 4) 300 8
10 Penn State (8 - 3) 284 11
11 Georgetown (8 - 3) 269 6
12 Army (9 - 2)        230 12
13 Penn (8 - 4)        214 14
14 Towson (9 - 3)        143 18
15 Richmond (8 - 4) 134 19
16 Saint Joseph's (8 - 3) 108 20
17 Princeton (7 - 4) 94 13
18 Harvard (7 - 4) 82 16
19 Delaware (7 - 3) 45 23
20 Boston U (7 - 5) 30 15
Receiving Votes: Colgate, Michigan, Ohio State, Navy, Villanova, Sacred Heart, UAlbany, Loyola, Rutgers, Jacksonville, Air Force, Utah

Quint Kessenich's Top 20 https://laxallstars.com/quint-kessenichs-top-20-april-15th-2024/
1. ND
2. Duke
3. Hopkins
4. Virginia
5. Maryland
6. Penn State
7. Syracuse was 10
8. Yale was 6
9. Denver
10. Cornell was 8
11. Georgetown
12. Penn unchanged
13. Richmond
14. Army
15. Delaware
16. Towson
17. Princeton was 13
18. Saint Joseph's
19. Ohio State
20. Harvard

RPI  https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1/ncaa-mens-lacrosse-rpi
1.  ND (first)
8.  Yale
10. Cornell
12. Penn
17. Harvard
19. Princeton
37. Brown
55. Dartmouth
76. Hampton (dead last)

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[b]USILA WEEK 11
Team (First-Place Votes) Rank Record Points[/b]
Notre Dame (21) 1 8-1   420
Duke        2 11-3 394
Johns Hopkins 3 9-3 354
Virginia 4 10-2 352
Maryland 5 8-3 333
Denver 6 9-2 303
Syracuse 7 10-4 289[b][color=#FF0000]
Cornell 8 7-4 260 was 10[/color][/b]
[b]Yale 9 9-2 258[/b]
Penn State 10 8-3 233
Georgetown 11 8-3 218
Army 12 9-2 196
[b]Penn 13 8-4 178[/b]
Richmond 14 8-4 133
St. Josephs 15 8-3 112
Towson 16 9-3 106
[b]Princeton 17 7-4 82[/b]
Delaware 18 7-3 52
[b]Harvard        19 7-4 46[/b]
Air Force 20 7-4 20
Also receiving votes: Michigan (14), Boston U. (11), Ohio State (9), Utah (9), Colgate (8), Rutgers (7), Villanova (4), Loyola Maryland (2), Sacred Heart (2), High Point (1), Navy (1), Providence (1), Albany (1), and North Carolina (1).

[arugula]

Cornell loses by 1 goal to the #1 team and drops a position in the polls to 9th. 10th in RPI. Media poll is in, Quint Kessenich's personal poll is in (Cornell 10), USILA coaches poll strolls in late Monday / Tuesday. All have Yale rated above Cornell by 1-2 positions, FWIW.  

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[b]Men's Division I Media Poll
Rank Team             Points      Prev[/b]
1        Notre Dame (8 - 1) 500(25)  1
2 Duke (11 - 3)        465 4
3 Johns Hopkins (9 - 3) 442 3
4 Virginia (10 - 2) 420 2
5 Maryland (8 - 3) 389 5
6 Syracuse (10 - 4) 354 7
7 Denver (9 - 2)        349 10
8 Yale (9 - 2)        313 9
9 Cornell (7 - 4) 300 8
10 Penn State (8 - 3) 284 11
11 Georgetown (8 - 3) 269 6
12 Army (9 - 2)        230 12
13 Penn (8 - 4)        214 14
14 Towson (9 - 3)        143 18
15 Richmond (8 - 4) 134 19
16 Saint Joseph's (8 - 3) 108 20
17 Princeton (7 - 4) 94 13
18 Harvard (7 - 4) 82 16
19 Delaware (7 - 3) 45 23
20 Boston U (7 - 5) 30 15
Receiving Votes: Colgate, Michigan, Ohio State, Navy, Villanova, Sacred Heart, UAlbany, Loyola, Rutgers, Jacksonville, Air Force, Utah

Quint Kessenich's Top 20 https://laxallstars.com/quint-kessenichs-top-20-april-15th-2024/
1. ND
2. Duke
3. Hopkins
4. Virginia
5. Maryland
6. Penn State
7. Syracuse was 10
8. Yale was 6
9. Denver
10. Cornell was 8
11. Georgetown
12. Penn unchanged
13. Richmond
14. Army
15. Delaware
16. Towson
17. Princeton was 13
18. Saint Joseph's
19. Ohio State
20. Harvard

RPI  https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1/ncaa-mens-lacrosse-rpi
1.  ND (first)
8.  Yale
10. Cornell
12. Penn
17. Harvard
19. Princeton
37. Brown
55. Dartmouth
76. Hampton (dead last)

Amazing we lose THAT game and we drop in the rankings. Did anyone even watch or they saw an L and reflexively voted.

[upprdeck]

Reality is 10 is about right.

we beat SU/Yale/Prin
we lost ND/Den/PSU/Penn

Harvard left to play as a top 20 right now

If we had beaten Penn we would probably be 6-8 right now

[billhoward]

My eyes glaze over when drilling down into what goes into RPI numbers. Is there a more complex RPI – that is, more accurate, that is better favors Cornell and Ivy teams – such as: Disparity in games already played before first weekend of March, relative rank of teams when the game was played vs. current or end-of-season rank, trend over the season, projected rank of the team in the post-season (okay, a reach). All in hopes of the most equitable selection of post-season teams.

[updating and correcting:] We lost 17-16 to Denver Feb, 4. That was Denver's fourth game. On the road. We beat Ohio state March 2, their sixth game, our fourth.

Our losses were by 1, 11 vs. PSU, 1 in OT, and now 1. Every win except the Princeton and Syracuse games were by >1.

Our lacrosse losses seem to happen more often in the early, colder part of the season. Cornell has gone from having indoor space in Bacon [batting] Cage adjecent to Hoy Field to artificial turf at Schoellkopf circa 1970-71 so teams could practice on a field that wasn't mud, to the half-field area in Bartels Hall since around 1990, to the pending indoor Meinig Field House (full field, 120 yards long) in 2026. That's going to help. Maybe we'll be at less of a disadvantage to top teams in early season play.

[RichH]

We lost 17-16 to Denver Feb, 4. That was Denver's fourth game, our first. Plus it was on the road. We beat Ohio state March 2, their sixth game, our fourth. By the time we lost 12-11 hosting Penn State, it was our seventh game, their ninth, not much difference, and we almost made up the entire 9-4 deficit after three

There are so many facts wrong in this paragraph, I don't know where to start. Denver wasn't our first game — we opened the season vs Lehigh. We got creamed by Penn State 20-9 in State College in our 5th game, and it was 18-7 after 3. We haven't lost a game in Ithaca (yet).

[CU77]

I like the Massey ratings, which take into account scores, game location, and recency. The precise formula is not disclosed, but the results comport pretty well with eyeball opinion (given the high uncertainties in that). Ratings are updated daily. Cornell is currently #11.

https://masseyratings.com/clax/ncaa-d1/ratings

Cornell is #10 in RPI and also in the laxmath power rating (based on goal differential)

https://www.laxmath.com/men/rating001x.php

[nshapiro]

I like the Massey ratings, which take into account scores, game location, and recency. The precise formula is not disclosed, but the results comport pretty well with eyeball opinion (given the high uncertainties in that). Ratings are updated daily. Cornell is currently #11.

https://masseyratings.com/clax/ncaa-d1/ratings

Cornell is #10 in RPI and also in the laxmath power rating (based on goal differential)

https://www.laxmath.com/men/rating001x.php

Admittedly, I don't understand what I am looking at in the Massey ratings, but I have a hard time respecting a rating that leaves Princeton unchanged at #12 after losing to Brown.