Opponents and Others 2023-24

[upprdeck]

Prov has BU an Northeastern this weekend.  2 losses that would put them close to Cornell.

uMass has 2 with Maine.

Mich has 2 with ND

4 teams in the NCHC are playing with results that can help Cornell.

so in reality 7 teams that around us are playing where it doesn't help both teams.

In a perfect result world we could jump back up to about 13th.

[arugula]

what are the helpful results?

[upprdeck]

Bu beat Prov tonight.. 1 we wanted


Miami plays WMU
Denver plays CC
Minn D plays St cloud
NDak plays Omaha

ND plays Mich

Minn/Wisc not losing in theirs would be good

All 6 teams ahead of us have a shot at losing 2 games this weekend. We need teams to back up to have a chance at a AT large to still be in play

[upprdeck]

Maine got the win
ND had a 2 goal lead and lost
Mind Dul comes back from 2 down late to win in OT
Ndak loses to Omaha
Miami had a 2 goal lead vs WMU and lost

could have been 4 good results that help got 2

Denver losing early to CC in a very fast paced game.

17 in PWR

IF Denver sweeps this weekend and CC is just barely ahead of us
Maine sweeps and Umass is barely ahead of us
Minn D wins tomorrow and St cloude is barely ahead of us
NE wins tomorrow and Prov is barely ahead of us
Miami Wins tomorrow and WMU is barely ahead of us

you could have 5-6 teams within 1-2 tenths of a pt.

[BearLover]

If Cornell had hung on vs Clarkson (or if Schafer had challenged the hand pass) or beaten Union, we'd have a good shot at an at-large bid. As it stands, we have almost no shot. To have a realistic shot at an at-large bid, we needed tonight to go extremely well. I didn't. Sickness or no sickness, things just...fell apart at the end. At this point, I'm resigned to the likely reality we need to win the ECAC, which unfortunately means I'm resigned to the fact we are a long shot to make the NCAAs.

[upprdeck]

6 teams in the PWR ahead of Cornell can still tumble. We need to pass 3 of them.

no chance at an at large without a sweep next week and a win in the Semis.  

Then the question is how far do we drop with a loss if its Quin and if its not Quin we would expect a win.

same 6 big games tonight that matter.

ND winning next 2 over Mich would mean Mich is done for the year and wont move much and certainly drops to where we can catch them with 3 wins.
ND had their chance last night.

[abmarks]

Another salvo in the facility wars.


$320 Million renovation for Maine's Alfond arena and facilities


https://www.uscho.com/2024/03/09/maine-announces-320-million-renovation-plans-for-harold-alfond-sports-arena-shawn-walsh-hockey-center-that-will-benefit-mens-womens-teams/

[upprdeck]

Maine knocks of Umass
NE ties Prov

so they play each other now and a sweep knocks the loser out

Need Denver to come back vs CC and Ndak to wake up vs Omaha and avoid a sweep

Minn D steps up and takes down SCS

all 4 teams ahead of us are within range

ND lost leads both nights vs Mich which probably puts Mich in now.

[upprdeck]

Next week

Cornell needs to take care and sweep but we get barely anything for that in the PWR

Umass-prov.  1 game series one will lose

STC vs WMU.  root for WMU sweep
CC vs Omaha  again need one to sweep and still not clear that does enough. Omaha sweeping Ndak last week not good for Cornell.

Still that would move us to 15th for sure.

[BearLover]

Next week

Cornell needs to take care and sweep but we get barely anything for that in the PWR

Umass-prov.  1 game series one will lose

STC vs WMU.  root for WMU sweep
CC vs Omaha  again need one to sweep and still not clear that does enough. Omaha sweeping Ndak last week not good for Cornell.

Still that would move us to 15th for sure.

I do not see a path for Cornell to get an at-large bid. I think it might be impossible to get into the top 14 at this point.

[pjd8]

Next week

Cornell needs to take care and sweep but we get barely anything for that in the PWR

Umass-prov.  1 game series one will lose

STC vs WMU.  root for WMU sweep
CC vs Omaha  again need one to sweep and still not clear that does enough. Omaha sweeping Ndak last week not good for Cornell.

Still that would move us to 15th for sure.

I do not see a path for Cornell to get an at-large bid. I think it might be impossible to get into the top 14 at this point.

Especially when you consider the competition from below. UNH and Northeastern right now are better than their season record.

UNH is right behind Cornell in RPI. Their path to the HE title is Lowell, Maine, BU, BC. They just shut out Lowell twice, they are 2-1 vs. Maine this year, they've beaten BU (granted, early in the season), and recently held BC to a 1-0 game. They don't get a title without luck, but they are playing well enough right not to put them in a position where they can leverage some luck once getting to the semis.

Likewise, Northeastern has a Merrimack, BU, BC, Maine (with potentially UNH in there somewhere). They have beaten all but UNH this year (and those games were early in the season). Again, they still need luck to get to a title. But the reality is that the #7 team in HE is still a potential contender. The conference is just that deep.

So many things have to go well for Cornell for an at-large bid, that it would just be easier to win the ECAC title and be done with it. So let's do that.

[BearLover]

Next week

Cornell needs to take care and sweep but we get barely anything for that in the PWR

Umass-prov.  1 game series one will lose

STC vs WMU.  root for WMU sweep
CC vs Omaha  again need one to sweep and still not clear that does enough. Omaha sweeping Ndak last week not good for Cornell.

Still that would move us to 15th for sure.

I do not see a path for Cornell to get an at-large bid. I think it might be impossible to get into the top 14 at this point.

Especially when you consider the competition from below. UNH and Northeastern right now are better than their season record.

UNH is right behind Cornell in RPI. Their path to the HE title is Lowell, Maine, BU, BC. They just shut out Lowell twice, they are 2-1 vs. Maine this year, they've beaten BU (granted, early in the season), and recently held BC to a 1-0 game. They don't get a title without luck, but they are playing well enough right not to put them in a position where they can leverage some luck once getting to the semis.

Likewise, Northeastern has a Merrimack, BU, BC, Maine (with potentially UNH in there somewhere). They have beaten all but UNH this year (and those games were early in the season). Again, they still need luck to get to a title. But the reality is that the #7 team in HE is still a potential contender. The conference is just that deep.

So many things have to go well for Cornell for an at-large bid, that it would just be easier to win the ECAC title and be done with it. So let's do that.

Even assuming UNH and Northeastern lose, I'm not even sure it's mathematically possible for Cornell to get an at-large bid. They'd need to pass both UMass and Providence, but those teams play each other next round and I don't think it will be possible for the winner to drop below Cornell.

[chimpfood]

It's definitely possible, just unlikely.

[upprdeck]

Next week

Cornell needs to take care and sweep but we get barely anything for that in the PWR

Umass-prov.  1 game series one will lose

STC vs WMU.  root for WMU sweep
CC vs Omaha  again need one to sweep and still not clear that does enough. Omaha sweeping Ndak last week not good for Cornell.

Still that would move us to 15th for sure.

I do not see a path for Cornell to get an at-large bid. I think it might be impossible to get into the top 14 at this point.

that may be true.   Easy enough to get to 15, but after that?

[chimpfood]

Next week

Cornell needs to take care and sweep but we get barely anything for that in the PWR

Umass-prov.  1 game series one will lose

STC vs WMU.  root for WMU sweep
CC vs Omaha  again need one to sweep and still not clear that does enough. Omaha sweeping Ndak last week not good for Cornell.

Still that would move us to 15th for sure.

I do not see a path for Cornell to get an at-large bid. I think it might be impossible to get into the top 14 at this point.

that may be true.   Easy enough to get to 15, but after that?

gotta have one of the NCHC teams drop basically.