Opponents and Others 2023-24

Started by Iceberg, June 02, 2023, 05:40:46 PM

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dbilmes

If the CHN app is to be believed, Q scored six goals in the first 8:52 of its game against Princeton, finishing the first period with six goals on 10 SOG. That's a rough stretch for the Princeton goalie/s. I'm hoping they pulled the starter at some point during the onslaught, perhaps after the fourth goal just 5:13 into the game.

marty

Also it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

dbilmes

Quote from: martyAlso it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.
Actually, Brown was ahead 4-3 when it scored that buzzer beater.

marty

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Quote from: martyAlso it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.
Actually, Brown was ahead 4-3 when it scored that buzzer beater.

Ok. Error on the score I read. Thanks.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Beeeej

Quote from: martyAlso it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.

But their draft picks...!!
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jeff Hopkins '82

I was just watching the Holy Cross - Army game.  The announcer actually referred to Cornell going to Cambridge and calling it "Lynah East."  I had no idea that name was known beyond eLynah!

BearLover

Colgate lost 3-2 in OT at LIU in both games this weekend. Of course, Cornell somehow managed to lay an egg at home against Colgate when they were only able to dress 4 defensemen.

upprdeck

whatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR

Dafatone

Quote from: upprdeckwhatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR

Our RPI right now is .5447. From what I can tell, .54 is usually enough to get in. So maybe some of the teams ahead of us will slip a little.

The more I look at it, the more I don't understand the point of the pairwise. It's almost exactly the same as RPI every season. I'd just switch to straight RPI.

upprdeck

since RPI is the tie breaking component for many of the teams thats gonna happen.

the COP and H2H come into play for limited teams.

Umass is an example.. if we beat Harv we win the COP and had we beaten them instead of a tie we would win the PWR even with losing the RPI.

But how often RPI isnt the real reason for winning a PWR would need some review to see.

Dafatone

Quote from: upprdecksince RPI is the tie breaking component for many of the teams thats gonna happen.

the COP and H2H come into play for limited teams.

Umass is an example.. if we beat Harv we win the COP and had we beaten them instead of a tie we would win the PWR even with losing the RPI.

But how often RPI isnt the real reason for winning a PWR would need some review to see.

It seems like every year, there's only a couple or so differences between RPI and PWR rankings.  Why go through all the hassle?

BearLover

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Quote from: upprdeckwhatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR

Our RPI right now is .5447. From what I can tell, .54 is usually enough to get in. So maybe some of the teams ahead of us will slip a little.

The more I look at it, the more I don't understand the point of the pairwise. It's almost exactly the same as RPI every season. I'd just switch to straight RPI.
Yeah. I think it's just RPI, except you drop a spot for each team behind you in RPI who has a (1) positive record against you and (2) better record than you against common opponents. This happened with Minn-Duluth last year: we had higher RPI, but they beat us head to head and had a better record against common opponents, so we ended up one ranking lower in the PWR.

Dafatone

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Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: upprdeckwhatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR

Our RPI right now is .5447. From what I can tell, .54 is usually enough to get in. So maybe some of the teams ahead of us will slip a little.

The more I look at it, the more I don't understand the point of the pairwise. It's almost exactly the same as RPI every season. I'd just switch to straight RPI.
Yeah. I think it's just RPI, except you drop a spot for each team behind you in RPI who has a (1) positive record against you and (2) better record than you against common opponents. This happened with Minn-Duluth last year: we had higher RPI, but they beat us head to head and had a better record against common opponents, so we ended up one ranking lower in the PWR.

Yup. Or, in the rare case you go 3-0 or better against a team, you beat them even if they have a better RPI and a better common opponent record.

But flipping one pairwise doesn't actually move you up. Say Team A is 39th and Team B is 40th in PWR and RPI, with A winning one more comparison than B. Then B flips a comparison with some other Team C.  Now A and B are tied in comparisons won. The tiebreaker there is still RPI, so A is still 39 and B 40.

Trotsky

Our good buddy TJ Semptimphelter just got chased for a second straight game, giving up 3 goals on 6 shots to national powerhouse Augustana (6-11-3).  ASU outshooting them 36-14 but still tied with 3 to play in regulation.  We could use a Sun Devil goal.

Trotsky

#13 Massachusetts wins at #28 Northeastern.
 #1 BU wins at #31 Vermont.
#24 Minnesota-Duluth loses at #10 Western Michigan.
#18 Arizona State wins vs #34 Augustana.