2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals

Started by Beeeej, March 19, 2023, 11:13:49 AM

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BearLover

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https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2023/03/22_NCAA-Tournament-Manchester.php
Based on what I've read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver's roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year's national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn't a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

Beeeej

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Quote from: BeeeejCHN's Manchester Regional preview:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2023/03/22_NCAA-Tournament-Manchester.php
Based on what I've read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver's roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year's national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn't a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Dafatone

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Quote from: BeeeejCHN's Manchester Regional preview:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2023/03/22_NCAA-Tournament-Manchester.php
Based on what I've read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver's roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year's national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn't a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.

We're 5th in the nation in scoring differential per game.

Of course, our regional has the 3rd, 6th, and 8th best teams.

But someone's gotta do it. Why not us?

BearLover

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Quote from: BeeeejCHN's Manchester Regional preview:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2023/03/22_NCAA-Tournament-Manchester.php
Based on what I've read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver's roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year's national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn't a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.

We're 5th in the nation in scoring differential per game.

Of course, our regional has the 3rd, 6th, and 8th best teams.

But someone's gotta do it. Why not us?
It's a hockey game. We have a chance of beating Denver. We are clear underdogs, but we have a chance. Maybe 2:1 odds? If we beat Denver, then the hardest part is over.

adamw

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Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: BeeeejCHN's Manchester Regional preview:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2023/03/22_NCAA-Tournament-Manchester.php
Based on what I've read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver's roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year's national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn't a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

Denver has 4 2nd Rounders - but as I said, I was talking only about the forwards - and only 2 of those are forwards - one is a freshman who is not a big-time contributor. The other is Tristan Broz, a transfer from Minnesota who is good, but essentially a 3rd liner.  Their stud forwards are not of the NHL prospect stud variety. They are however very dangerous. Carter Mazur has one of the best shots in college hockey. Their top scorer is a 7th round pick. Mazur is a 3rd rounder. Jake Devine is a 7th rounder. Dornbach is undrafted.  Compare this to Minnesota and Michigan and even BU.
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

adamw

Quote from: BearLoverIt's a hockey game. We have a chance of beating Denver. We are clear underdogs, but we have a chance. Maybe 2:1 odds? If we beat Denver, then the hardest part is over.

That's what I thought in 2009. And 2012 :(
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

Beeeej

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Quote from: BeeeejIt's a hockey game. We have a chance of beating Denver. We are clear underdogs, but we have a chance. Maybe 2:1 odds? If we beat Denver, then the hardest part is over.

That's what I thought in 2009. And 2012 :(

Not that I'm worried about it showing up in court proceedings or something, but please don't quote me as having posted someone else's words.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Tcl123

Denver -220
Cornell +180

Those are the current odds.

adamw

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not sure how that happened - fixed my post
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Trotsky

It's a single game, anything can happen.

Iceberg

Is there an international feed for the regionals?

upprdeck

We need the PP to get some chances and do some scoring.  Our lack of getting penalties is the big issue in all 3 games vs harvard.

cu155

Listed as streaming on ESPNNews (not clear to me if this is cable ESPN or works under ESPN+).  

If ESPN+ then solution would be ESPN+ subscription or Disney+ bundle that includes ESPN+ and Hulu and then using a VPN.

If ESPN then solution would be Hulu subscription adding 'Live TV' package to get ESPN unless you have ESPN via a cable provider in the US that allows you to log in and stream.  Will still need a VPN to show your IP address as in the US.

Being based in China I typically pay for and use a VPN called Astrill as it has the lowest latency/best server flexibility.  In other countries a lot of people use ExpressVPN.

LGR14

Quote from: cu155Listed as streaming on ESPNNews (not clear to me if this is cable ESPN or works under ESPN+).  

If ESPN+ then solution would be ESPN+ subscription or Disney+ bundle that includes ESPN+ and Hulu and then using a VPN.

If ESPN then solution would be Hulu subscription adding 'Live TV' package to get ESPN unless you have ESPN via a cable provider in the US that allows you to log in and stream.  Will still need a VPN to show your IP address as in the US.

Being based in China I typically pay for and use a VPN called Astrill as it has the lowest latency/best server flexibility.  In other countries a lot of people use ExpressVPN.

All games are in ESPN+. No VPN required.

cu155

Excellent on ESPN+

Brought up VPN as they were asking for an international feed so was assuming they might be outside of the US.  ESPN+ is region locked (or maybe just blocked) at least for China so VPN is the only way to access even when paying for the service.