AIC @ Cornell 12/29 12/30

Started by billhoward, December 21, 2022, 05:37:20 PM

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scoop85

Quote from: IcebergWhat was the deal with that 4th AIC goal? Were they reviewing to see if it was kicked in?

That must've been the issue. Hard to tell from the replay, but however it went in it didn't come from the stick.

billhoward

Fourth AIC goal did not appear to come from the shooter's stick. It could have been kicked in by the AIC skater or possibly off the skate of the Cornell goalie, ex-AIC goalie, Ryan McInchak, who'd been in for about 20 seconds. Too bad. 8-3 sounds like a Cornell blow-out, 8-4 sounds like a high-scoring game that Cornell controlled.

RichH

Quote from: billhowardFourth AIC goal did not appear to come from the shooter's stick. It could have been kicked in by the AIC skater or possibly off the skate of the Cornell goalie, ex-AIC goalie, Ryan McInchak, who'd been in for about 20 seconds. Too bad. 8-3 sounds like a Cornell blow-out, 8-4 sounds like a high-scoring game that Cornell controlled.

I disagree.

upprdeck

So what was up with the AIC 4 man weave.. several times they played D with just 4 guys and let cornell have at it while the 5th was hanging out at the other blue line..Cornell just kept cycling the puck for 30-45 secs.. They did that multiple times.. Dont recall the last time I saw a team do that consistently.

Trotsky

The only 2 bad things I saw:

1. The glass Stienburg is chipped again.
2. Shane gives up 3 goals on just 11 shots.

I just want us to win again tonight.  9-5 / 5-3 / 16 PWR is fine to start the new year and gives us a platform to take off from.

Beeeej

Quote from: TrotskyThe only 2 bad things I saw:

1. The glass Stienburg is chipped again.
2. Shane gives up 3 goals on just 11 shots.

I just want us to win again tonight.  9-5 / 5-3 / 16 PWR is fine to start the new year and gives us a platform to take off from.

In a vacuum from all other possible results, a win tonight puts us at 13 PWR.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

upprdeck

I dont think you can fault Shane on 2 of the goals and the 3rd was a 3 on 1 that the guy made a nice shot on though I would think Shane probably thinks he should save it.

3 goals but also several good saves to keep it at 3 goals with a couple odd man breaks and a break away save.

Cornell being down was the  heavy aggressor all game and easily could have had 4-5 more with the quality of the chances.

jkahn

Last year. Berard's shooting reminded me of Alex DeBrincat.  Last night, his passing was like Patrick Kane's.  Both his assists were gorgeous.  I thought the team puck and player movement in the offensive zone was much improved from earlier in the season.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Trotsky

The previous-high-scorers-unaccountably-quiet-this-year looked great in general last night.  The only absent one was poor Matt.

Fun stat of the night courtesy of CU's page:

Quote from: Cornell extended its unbeaten streak in home games played on Thursdays to 14. The Big Red is 13-0-1 dating back to the beginning of the streak, which began on Nov. 28, 1963. During the stretch, Cornell has outscored its opponents by a whopping 86 goals (115-28), which includes nine games with five-plus goals.

Trotsky

Also, in 13 games we have 19 different goal scorers, with nobody having more than 4:  

4: Bancroft, Mitchell
3: Andreev, Penney, Mack, Psenicka, Tupker, DeSantis
2: Seger, Stienburg, O'Leary, Wallace
1: Berard, Donaldson, Malinski, Rego, Malone, Lagerstrom, Kovich

SOG comparison by game:


UMD   +4
UMD   -2
Prn  +21
Qpc  -19
SLU   +2
Clk   +5
Yal  +13
Brn  +21
SH   +14
UCt   +3
Hvd    0
Drt  +16
AIC  +22

[b]Avg   +8.5[/b]

Dafatone

Quote from: TrotskyAlso, in 13 games we have 19 different goal scorers, with nobody having more than 4:  

4: Bancroft, Mitchell
3: Andreev, Penney, Mack, Psenicka, Tupker, DeSantis
2: Seger, Stienburg, O'Leary, Wallace
1: Berard, Donaldson, Malinski, Rego, Malone, Lagerstrom, Kovich

SOG comparison by game:


UMD   +4
UMD   -2
Prn  +21
Qpc  -19
SLU   +2
Clk   +5
Yal  +13
Brn  +21
SH   +14
UCt   +3
Hvd    0
Drt  +16
AIC  +22

[b]Avg   +8.5[/b]

The Q shots must have been pretty even in periods 2 and 3. Maybe -1? I think period 1 was 18-0.

Trotsky

Quote from: DafatoneThe Q shots must have been pretty even in periods 2 and 3. Maybe -1? I think period 1 was 18-0.

Yes.

Swampy

Quote from: upprdeckSo what was up with the AIC 4 man weave.. several times they played D with just 4 guys and let cornell have at it while the 5th was hanging out at the other blue line..Cornell just kept cycling the puck for 30-45 secs.. They did that multiple times.. Dont recall the last time I saw a team do that consistently.

Isn't this the hockey version of "parking the bus"? The other team is better, so you clog things up to prevent scores at your own goal, and you plan on a counter-attack to score a goal yourself. In this case, the guy hanging out by the blue line leads the counter.

IIRC, this strategy was quite common when teams visited Lynah in the the late 1960s, almost always to no avail.

Trotsky

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: upprdeckSo what was up with the AIC 4 man weave.. several times they played D with just 4 guys and let cornell have at it while the 5th was hanging out at the other blue line..Cornell just kept cycling the puck for 30-45 secs.. They did that multiple times.. Dont recall the last time I saw a team do that consistently.

Isn't this the hockey version of "parking the bus"? The other team is better, so you clog things up to prevent scores at your own goal, and you plan on a counter-attack to score a goal yourself. In this case, the guy hanging out by the blue line leads the counter.

IIRC, this strategy was quite common when teams visited Lynah in the the late 1960s, almost always to no avail.
I don't know but if last night was an indication, it's a great way to go 30-45 seconds at a time watching Cornell control the puck.

Thing is, AIC is not terrible.  They came in 10-7-4, comfortably second in their conference and with some votes in the national polls.  But other than two fluky goals they had zero pressure on us.  They were quite content to allow us to hold the puck, move it around, and get an astonishing number of great looks.  8 was the low end of what Cornell's kind of dominance last night would typically put up.

Trotsky

Just for fun, Cornell shots margin over the first 13 games in 1970:

WOn  +46
Gue  +40
RPI  +20
Brn  +26 (won in overtime!)
BU   +11
Yal  +59
SLU  +28
RPI  +35
SLU  +15
BU    -4
Cgt  +14
Hvd  +12
Tor   +8

[b]Avg  +23.2[/b]