Harvard @ Cornell, 12/2/2022

[marty]

I'm glad everyone is on the same page about the dumbness and bullshit aspects of 3x3 OT

Everyone except those who can change it.

[Dunc]

Big ups to the students in sparkling blue fish costumes in Section B!

Thanks!

[BearLover]

Cornell played pretty well against one of the most talented teams in the country. The first period was even. In the second, Cornell found an answer for Harvard's offense and neutral zone trap. But Harvard's late second period goal seemed to take some life out of Cornell and the crowd. After that, Harvard's skill took over and Cornell was a step behind the entire third period. In OT, Cornell looked like a team who hadn't gone to 3x3 OT—or practiced it either. Cornell students responded to the Harvard goal by pelting the ice with fish and random trash, included a drink that nearly hit one of the ice-cleaners as she was picking up a fish.

[andyw2100]

Also here's a link to the cheers sheet me and laserwhisperer made that we are distributing tonight (thanks to Andyw2100 for providing an old cheer sheet for inspiration) -the printed version has a QR code to ELynah on it so we may see an increase in student users tonight haha

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nvm-nOe_eqpoI4UgY5QTkERU7xbnoSoM/mobilebasic

This is really excellent. It's great to see an attempt being made to keep the Lynah traditions alive. And I think your efforts were largely successful.

The one thing I would add somewhere, that you deleted from the old sheet, is something about standing for the Alma Mater. I'm assuming your seats are in A or B, and those sections most definitely do stand. You of course can't see much of C, D, E, etc. from there. Before tonight, very few students from the tunnel-break in C on down would stand. Tonight was better, and we actually saw some in C and in D encouraging others to stand. A few words on the next version of the sheet, and in the online version, could really help.

Thanks again for taking this on!

[Iceberg]

Cornell played pretty well against one of the most talented teams in the country. The first period was even. In the second, Cornell found an answer for Harvard's offense and neutral zone trap. But Harvard's late second period goal seemed to take some life out of Cornell and the crowd. After that, Harvard's skill took over and Cornell was a step behind the entire third period. In OT, Cornell looked like a team who hadn't gone to 3x3 OT—or practiced it either. Cornell students responded to the Harvard goal by pelting the ice with fish and random trash, included a drink that nearly hit one of the ice-cleaners as she was picking up a fish.

I think the game goes differently if they score again in the 2nd but for whatever reason Gibson always looks good against Cornell or at least has things go his way. Also, I think it's safe to say that Q is the best team overall in the conference. I'd be shocked if they don't finish in 1st at the end of the regular season

[CU2007]

What's with all the "F*ck You" cheers?

[Dunc]

What's with all the "F*ck You" cheers?

They are not planned at all - one loud person usually just says it and then their friends join and then their whole section joins

It's a bit unfortunate imo because FU chants are a bit too on the nose and not as "clever" as the rest of the cheers - but it's hard to prevent

[Dunc]

Somethings smelling fishy tonight

Let's beat Harvard cuz they suck

Cornell:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjAVxujXoAUa9AW.jpg

Harvard:
Not posted yet


Also here's a link to the cheers sheet me and laserwhisperer made that we are distributing tonight (thanks to Andyw2100 for providing an old cheer sheet for inspiration) -the printed version has a QR code to ELynah on it so we may see an increase in student users tonight haha

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nvm-nOe_eqpoI4UgY5QTkERU7xbnoSoM/mobilebasic

This is really excellent. It's great to see an attempt being made to keep the Lynah traditions alive. And I think your efforts were largely successful.

The one thing I would add somewhere, that you deleted from the old sheet, is something about standing for the Alma Mater. I'm assuming your seats are in A or B, and those sections most definitely do stand. You of course can't see much of C, D, E, etc. from there. Before tonight, very few students from the tunnel-break in C on down would stand. Tonight was better, and we actually saw some in C and in D encouraging others to stand. A few words on the next version of the sheet, and in the online version, could really help.

Thabks again for taking this on!

We will definitely add that to the Alma Mater section - thanks for the pointer and again for the help in making it (and yes we are both section B and it's pretty much impossible to see any further than C haha)

[BearLover]

Cornell played pretty well against one of the most talented teams in the country. The first period was even. In the second, Cornell found an answer for Harvard's offense and neutral zone trap. But Harvard's late second period goal seemed to take some life out of Cornell and the crowd. After that, Harvard's skill took over and Cornell was a step behind the entire third period. In OT, Cornell looked like a team who hadn't gone to 3x3 OT—or practiced it either. Cornell students responded to the Harvard goal by pelting the ice with fish and random trash, included a drink that nearly hit one of the ice-cleaners as she was picking up a fish.

I think the game goes differently if they score again in the 2nd but for whatever reason Gibson always looks good against Cornell or at least has things go his way. Also, I think it's safe to say that Q is the best team overall in the conference. I'd be shocked if they don't finish in 1st at the end of the regular season

I definitely do not think that is safe to say. I predict Harvard will be as good as Q by the end of the season. Harvard certainly has a higher talent ceiling.

[RichH]

In addition to all the other Harvard mishegoss, they have three sons of very good NHLers. Who knew they were such students!

Quite a number of NCAA guys the past few years have been the sons of former notable NHLers. Tkachuk, Boucher, Madden, Amonte, and then the three guys they mentioned on Harvard. Heck, Mario Lemieux's son played ASU and was in at least one of the games against Cornell a few years ago! And as we'll see next month, BU's new coach is Jay Pandolfdo, a player I liked when I watched the NHL more often than I do now

William Dineen of Yale is the son of Whaler legend Kevin.

[underskill]

Does Cornell get a losers point for getting to OT or is it a straight loss for both conference and PWR purposes.

[arugula]

Cornell played pretty well against one of the most talented teams in the country. The first period was even. In the second, Cornell found an answer for Harvard's offense and neutral zone trap. But Harvard's late second period goal seemed to take some life out of Cornell and the crowd. After that, Harvard's skill took over and Cornell was a step behind the entire third period. In OT, Cornell looked like a team who hadn't gone to 3x3 OT—or practiced it either. Cornell students responded to the Harvard goal by pelting the ice with fish and random trash, included a drink that nearly hit one of the ice-cleaners as she was picking up a fish.

I think the game goes differently if they score again in the 2nd but for whatever reason Gibson always looks good against Cornell or at least has things go his way. Also, I think it's safe to say that Q is the best team overall in the conference. I'd be shocked if they don't finish in 1st at the end of the regular season

I definitely do not think that is safe to say. I predict Harvard will be as good as Q by the end of the season. Harvard certainly has a higher talent ceiling.

They always do and they generally underachieve.  Time will tell but Donato can't coach the talent he recruits.

[BearLover]

Cornell played pretty well against one of the most talented teams in the country. The first period was even. In the second, Cornell found an answer for Harvard's offense and neutral zone trap. But Harvard's late second period goal seemed to take some life out of Cornell and the crowd. After that, Harvard's skill took over and Cornell was a step behind the entire third period. In OT, Cornell looked like a team who hadn't gone to 3x3 OT—or practiced it either. Cornell students responded to the Harvard goal by pelting the ice with fish and random trash, included a drink that nearly hit one of the ice-cleaners as she was picking up a fish.

I think the game goes differently if they score again in the 2nd but for whatever reason Gibson always looks good against Cornell or at least has things go his way. Also, I think it's safe to say that Q is the best team overall in the conference. I'd be shocked if they don't finish in 1st at the end of the regular season

I definitely do not think that is safe to say. I predict Harvard will be as good as Q by the end of the season. Harvard certainly has a higher talent ceiling.

They always do and they generally underachieve.  Time will tell but Donato can't coach the talent he recruits.

That was true 10 years ago but it's not really true anymore. In the last 7 seasons Harvard has made the NCAAs 5 times and won the ECAC 3 times. Also, the talent on Harvard today is greater than what it was even just a few years ago. Harvard currently has more draft picks than any other program, which has never been true in its history.

[marty]

Cornell played pretty well against one of the most talented teams in the country. The first period was even. In the second, Cornell found an answer for Harvard's offense and neutral zone trap. But Harvard's late second period goal seemed to take some life out of Cornell and the crowd. After that, Harvard's skill took over and Cornell was a step behind the entire third period. In OT, Cornell looked like a team who hadn't gone to 3x3 OT—or practiced it either. Cornell students responded to the Harvard goal by pelting the ice with fish and random trash, included a drink that nearly hit one of the ice-cleaners as she was picking up a fish.

I think the game goes differently if they score again in the 2nd but for whatever reason Gibson always looks good against Cornell or at least has things go his way. Also, I think it's safe to say that Q is the best team overall in the conference. I'd be shocked if they don't finish in 1st at the end of the regular season

I definitely do not think that is safe to say. I predict Harvard will be as good as Q by the end of the season. Harvard certainly has a higher talent ceiling.

They always do and they generally underachieve.  Time will tell but Donato can't coach the talent he recruits.

That was true 10 years ago but it's not really true anymore. In the last 7 seasons Harvard has made the NCAAs 5 times and won the ECAC 3 times. Also, the talent on Harvard today is greater than what it was even just a few years ago. Harvard currently has more draft picks than any other program, which has never been true in its history.

That team is so loaded this year that it is amazing Cornell did so well until their score and subsequently in the third period.

The ability to keep them off the site board in the third was amazing in itself.

[Dafatone]

Does Cornell get a losers point for getting to OT or is it a straight loss for both conference and PWR purposes.

I think in ECAC standings, we get a loser point and Harvard only gets 2 points.

For pairwise, I believe RPI gives them .55 of a win and us .45. Not sure on that.

It looks like the OT win counts as a win for head to head purposes in the pairwise. Which sucks, but that rarely comes into play. RPI is the tiebreaker, so pairwise rankings usually wind up very closely aligned with RPI.