Men's Soccer 2022

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abmarks

Quote from: billhowardCornell is ranked as the 13 seed, potentially, by the NCAA, as of the week of Oct. 28. Per Cornell: https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/10/28/mens-soccer-mens-soccer-tabbed-no-13-in-ncaa-mens-soccer-committee-top-16.aspx  Forty-eight D1 schools make the playoffs; 23 get AQs and 25 are at-large. The tournament field will be announced Monday, Nov. 14, at 1 p.m.

Quote from: from the article bill linked"Two weeks before the NCAA Division I Men's Soccer committee is set to release the 48-team field for the 2022 NCAA Men's Soccer Championship, the committee revealed Friday evening the top 16 teams for results through Oct. 27 during halftime of the Duke – Virginia Tech game on the ACC Network.


Interesting.   I'm sure every serious fan of any team sport knows where to find an uptodate ranking that uses the exact NCAA criteria, like checking the pairwise on CHN or uscho for hockey.   But I love how the NCAA is proactively publishing this for soccer.  They ought to do this for every sport that has non-subjective criteria—it'd be a PR win for them and help build the hype over the last 4 weeks of the season or so.

They're even missing out on a monetization opportunity, which is pretty rare. They ought to brand this stuff and  sell it off by sport

The Puma official NCAA soccer rankings
The Goldman Sachs Official Lax ranking
The Official FCS rankings by Mayo Clinic...cuz these guys will all need orthopedic care soon enough

Edit: they have all this ranking stuff on their website already. Here's men's hockey.

Are they publicly hyping this stuff for other sports besides soccer but I've.just.missed.it in the past?





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ugarte

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: IcebergJudging by that site, it seems like there's a reasonable chance of greater than one Ivy school being in the NCAA's depending on what happens the next two weekends
based on that site i wonder if there would be 3 if we lose to yale
looking at it i realized that harvard would be the third team already with yale not too far off the bubble. the cut line is pretty volatile, though, and the RPI has us rated higher than the committee rankings do and that may be true for other ivies as well.

billhoward

Quote from: abmarksInteresting. I'm sure every serious fan of any team sport knows where to find an uptodate ranking that uses the exact NCAA criteria, like checking the pairwise on CHN or uscho for hockey. But I love how the NCAA is proactively publishing this for soccer. They ought to do this for every sport that has non-subjective criteria—it'd be a PR win for them and help build the hype over the last 4 weeks of the season or so.
Exactly. And sports also benefits from occasional (fair-weather?) fans. Who knew Cornell's love for basketball in 2010? So it'd be nice if it's easier for all fans to see polls, rankings, potential seedings and RPIs. Soccer, it seemed, was a bit slow to widely publish updated ratings earlier in the month. It takes a lot of behind-scenes work to collate the ratings from coaches or media, and it's also a lot simpler than pre-2000: rather than call or be called, each voter/rater fills out an online form and, bingo, the poll creates itself.

Iceberg

1-1 tie to Yale earlier with Penn beating Columbia. I guess Cornell would have to beat said Columbia team next week and hope Penn loses at Princeton to win the league?

Swampy

Quote from: Iceberg1-1 tie to Yale earlier with Penn beating Columbia. I guess Cornell would have to beat said Columbia team next week and hope Penn loses at Princeton to win the league?

Seems unlikely. I wasn't impressed by Princeton. But then, they could always park the bus and pull something out.

CU2007

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Iceberg1-1 tie to Yale earlier with Penn beating Columbia. I guess Cornell would have to beat said Columbia team next week and hope Penn loses at Princeton to win the league?

Seems unlikely. I wasn't impressed by Princeton. But then, they could always park the bus and pull something out.

Assuming we beat a pretty bad Columbia team, are we a safe bet to make the ncaa's even if Princeton doesn't help us out?

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Iceberg1-1 tie to Yale earlier with Penn beating Columbia. I guess Cornell would have to beat said Columbia team next week and hope Penn loses at Princeton to win the league?

Seems unlikely. I wasn't impressed by Princeton. But then, they could always park the bus and pull something out.

Assuming we beat a pretty bad Columbia team, are we a safe bet to make the ncaa's even if Princeton doesn't help us out?
#8 in RPI: http://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
Al DeFlorio '65

nshapiro

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Iceberg1-1 tie to Yale earlier with Penn beating Columbia. I guess Cornell would have to beat said Columbia team next week and hope Penn loses at Princeton to win the league?

Seems unlikely. I wasn't impressed by Princeton. But then, they could always park the bus and pull something out.

Assuming we beat a pretty bad Columbia team, are we a safe bet to make the ncaa's even if Princeton doesn't help us out?
#8 in RPI: http://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
The better question is are we going to be a top 16 seed and get a bye.  https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d1/di-committees-top-16
When Section D was the place to be

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Iceberg1-1 tie to Yale earlier with Penn beating Columbia. I guess Cornell would have to beat said Columbia team next week and hope Penn loses at Princeton to win the league?

Seems unlikely. I wasn't impressed by Princeton. But then, they could always park the bus and pull something out.

Assuming we beat a pretty bad Columbia team, are we a safe bet to make the ncaa's even if Princeton doesn't help us out?
#8 in RPI: http://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
The better question is are we going to be a top 16 seed and get a bye.  https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d1/di-committees-top-16
Alberto Camargo's predicted bracket as of November 3: https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/-PREDICTIONS-2022-mens-soccer-bracket.jpg
Al DeFlorio '65

ugarte

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Iceberg1-1 tie to Yale earlier with Penn beating Columbia. I guess Cornell would have to beat said Columbia team next week and hope Penn loses at Princeton to win the league?

Seems unlikely. I wasn't impressed by Princeton. But then, they could always park the bus and pull something out.

Assuming we beat a pretty bad Columbia team, are we a safe bet to make the ncaa's even if Princeton doesn't help us out?
#8 in RPI: http://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
The better question is are we going to be a top 16 seed and get a bye.  https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d1/di-committees-top-16
Alberto Camargo's predicted bracket as of November 3: https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/-PREDICTIONS-2022-mens-soccer-bracket.jpg

Very bullish on Penn at 5. sure, they're probably going to win the conference and beat us H2H but pending tomorrow's results we have:
much tougher SOS (18 v 60)
better RPI (8 v 15)
better NCAA rank (13 v UR)
better best win (RPI 5 Syracuse vs... us)
better worst loss (Colgate (67) vs Albany (70))
our second worst result is a tie at Yale (49) while they lost to Harvard (47) and tied Temple (114)

Our placement seems fine even if I think our first match looks cruel but Penn is way high.

ugarte

Cornell with a goal 5 minutes in to take a 1-0 lead and nearly gets a penalty shot awarded with 15 minutes left in the first half but the officials ultimately decided the foul was just outside the box. Really dominating play so I want a second goal so I can exhale.

Penn also up 1-0 late in the first half.

ugarte

Penn bangs home a second with under 10 remaining in the first half. Win this for seeding but the Ivy title is probably out of reach.

ugarte

And right off the second half start, Cornell gets it in deep, the Columbia goalie comes off his line but loses the race to the ball and Cornell gets an easy tap-in to go up 2-0.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarteReally dominating play so I want a second goal so I can exhale.

Please exhale now.

ugarte

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarteReally dominating play so I want a second goal so I can exhale.

Please exhale now.
ahhhhhhhhhhhh